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Author: john gibson
Date: 2001-11-30 22:46
Hi friends....
Am wondering: on Selmer Paris model clarinets.....most have the word DEPOSE
on them....what does it mean? AND....aren't the Paris made Selmer's supposed to be superior to those made in the U.S.A.?
Any thoughts on an older Selmer 10 series with articulated G#? Guy selling it says it's a 1950's model, but I thought those were "newer" than the '50's. He's asking $595. It needs a re-pad.
Thanks in advance....
John
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2001-11-30 23:26
Check the serial number with the Selmer link here on sneezy (equipment: "how old is my"). I'm sure you'll find it was manufactured no earlier than the mid to late 60's. As far as the "Depose" is concerned I've never thought about it. Any French out there want to tackle this one. I lost my French dictionary......loaned it to a student and never got it back. I guess it is time to buy another.
jbutler
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Author: Rob
Date: 2001-12-01 00:00
As I recall, there was a thread on the Depose thing, maybe a year or so ago, maybe more, and Depose means something like registered trademark. I would do a search here on sneezy for that. None of the new Selmer Paris models seem to carry this term anymore, though many of them now seem to have the international trademark symbol of an R in a circle, at least as far as what I have seen. I also do not believe that the Series 10 was around in the 50s. I would check the serial number. I have an older Series 10 Full-Boehm and I really think it's a great instrument. If it's a good one that you're looking at, then I think the $595.00 price is a real bargain. The Series 9, 10 (and later the 10G) were meant, I think, to compete with the Buffet R13 and for my money, the Series 10 was far superior, and far more reliable as far as quality was concerned, but that is my opinion, and I wouldn't want to upset the R13 mafia, at least not too much. You must decide for yourself. Good Luck !
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2001-12-01 15:30
I looked in my Fr/Eng dictionary, depose' has a number of meanings, its my belief that " to give witness" [as is used in the US etc?] in regard to legal testimony is meant here. In short, I believe it means that the cl design and manufacture was [at least at one time] protected by patents and trademarks, I do have several Sel US pat. copies on cls and saxes. I have a number of Selmer cls and saxes, the cls ranging from a 1920's Full Boehm sop. thru a 1970's bass [30's] and alto, and find them invariably very good, even with small [to me] faults. My 50;s CT and BT are among my very best!! Look around, I paid less tha 600 for mine!! Luck, Don
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-12-03 00:12
http://www.wordreference.com/fr/en/
Spanish, German, Italian to English dictionaries are alos available.See left column.
Seems to work without special French/German etc notations.
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