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 string ligature tying method
Author: terry 
Date:   2001-11-06 17:18

Ok,
for the experts,
any URL/pictures showing how to tie the reed to the
"grooved" german-style mouthpiece? A picture is worth
a thousand words!

thanks!
terr

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: Ken Shaw 
Date:   2001-11-06 17:39

Terry -

I've never seen a picture, but I posted step-by-step instructions (considerably less than 1,000 words) at http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=30979&t=30927 .

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: ron b 
Date:   2001-11-06 18:47

Looking waaaaay back, these two links were posted in answer to the same question: how do you tie a string ligature?
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http://www.br-online.de/kultur-szene/klassik/images/po/content/keine_angst/klarinette_5.jpg

http://www.br-online.de/kultur-szene/klassik/pages/grosse_toene/toene_klarinette.html>

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: ron b 
Date:   2001-11-06 19:00

I offer an apology; it looks like my klutzy attempt (above) was an 'oops'. I was hoping the links from way back, around September, would still work as an enhancement to Ken's posting. Likely I just didn't do the linking thing right :|
Maybe someone can help us out here :(
If not, Ken's description is about as excellent an explanation as we can possibly get :]
- ron b _

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2001-11-06 19:23

ron b wrote:
http://www.br-online.de/kultur-szene/klassik/images/po/content/keine_angst/klarinette_5.jpg

http://www.br-online.de/kultur-szene/klassik/pages/grosse_toene/toene_klarinette.html

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: ron b 
Date:   2001-11-06 21:44

Thanks, Mark :))
Not as much detail about tying the reed as I thought I remembered. Ken's post is a far better explanation of the actual string tying process.
That link was interesting though, I thought. Even if you don't read German, the pics are pretty much self explanatory. He's explaining about the different parts of the instrument and what it takes to actually make it play (like a clarinet 'should' sound :) - i.e. it needs a Reed (and a mouthpiece).
- ron b -

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: Roger 
Date:   2001-11-06 22:23

I used a string for a while---used bees wax to make it sticky. It was some sort of fishing line or something. A teacher of mine gave it to me. It no loner works---I think it has worn out or something.

I cannot figure out what kind of string to buy as a replacement.

Any advise?

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: ron b 
Date:   2001-11-07 04:48

Roger -
My guess is any heavy cord (1/8" might be too heavy, 3/32" maybe - ?), something that's soft and moderately flexible should be okay. I've haven't tried yarn but I don't know why it wouldn't work if you could do something about the ends fraying(?). It's cheap :)
- ron b -

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: Arnold the basset hornist 
Date:   2001-11-07 06:05

Hello,

I thought I've uploaded (to the visitor upload section) some pictures (and text) some time ago. Perhaps they've gone lost. I'll look for the copy at my 'archive' and mail that to you (in a zip file).

Arnold (the basset hornist)

P.S. Some people use round shoe laces, others just a 'sateen twine, 60 % cotton + 40 % viscose', diameter is approx. 2 mm (up to 3.2 mm) [25.4 mm = 1 inch], length is approx. 1.5 m (5 inch).
I never tried 'elastic' ones.

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: sarah 
Date:   2001-11-07 15:23

I have heard of success with a shoelace, the flat type.

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: Ken Shaw 
Date:   2001-11-07 15:36

I think flat shoelaces are too wide and too soft. A round shoestring works better. German players use a string made specially for that purpose, called a Blattschnur ("blatt" = reed; "schnur" = string). It's round and like a thick, unwaxed shoestring -- medium soft. Michele Zukovsky (who plays a completely German setup) gave me one several years ago.

Steve Hartman, who always uses string, uses what looks to me like a waxed shoelace. Steve - if you read this, what exactly do you use?

Ken Shaw

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: sarah 
Date:   2001-11-07 15:55

I'm sorry, I don't actually use them. I was refering to something in David Pino's book. He suggested using flat ones because they wider. I think so they would be quicker to put on.

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 RE: string ligature tying method
Author: Katfish 
Date:   2001-11-07 20:24

I use a flat 27 inch shoe lace. I've use round shoe laces but didn't notice a difference in sound or responce. The flat ones are easier to tie.

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