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Author: Benny
Date: 2001-09-19 23:34
I am going to be playing Weber's 2nd Concerto for an audition and I was wondering if anybody has any hints or suggestions. Thanks
Benny
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Author: William
Date: 2001-09-20 02:06
Keep the rhythmns accurate and even, and don't rush the tempos.
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Author: James
Date: 2001-09-20 04:09
I recomend that you get a recording of john manasee playing them. Some hints are number one to be very contrasting in dynamics. Weber was a famous opera composer so you gotta think like you are singing it. i was even told in a lesson that i should sing the phrases to better understand them. Also for the opening high F. Use the Crunch Eb fingering with the A flat key. ITs way better in tune. Good luck!
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Author: Luanne
Date: 2001-09-20 14:21
Actually a better fingering for the opening high F is the regular F fingering without the Eb key abd add the throat tone G#. Don't come in too loud on that particular note maybe more of a mf than a f, and make sure the interval from high F to low F is correct. Low F tends to be flat so play the clarion C in between to check pitch when practicing. (Open 5th) Use alot more lift releases and make LONG phrases. Don't make your staccatos too separated and like James said, make the piece sing. Try to build more intensity as well by building your phrases. Good luck. It's a great piece!
Luanne :o)
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Author: Jeff Young
Date: 2001-09-20 16:40
I am working on this at the moment as well. My question is this....in the spots where this is all tonguing, say at....well, there are 3 times in the piece where it starts on low E and works its way up, to around the High F to G range....is it ok to add slurs in these spots? Thanks. I'd give measure numbers, but I don't have the music in front of me right now.
Thanks,
Jeff Young
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Author: Ashley
Date: 2001-09-20 20:46
Any articulation you have in your particular edition is exactly that--an edition. Weber did not write them. Usually any interpretation of articulation is equally valid.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-09-20 21:32
The traditional high F fingering used for the opening of the Weber #2 is quite flat on the R-13, it's a little better in pitch on the Yamaha, and almost acceptable on the Leblanc and Selmer. We should always be careful to give fingering advice without inquiring as to one's instrument.
If you have an R-13, the opening high F is usually played as a "long" F:
c#
TR xxx / xxx - this makes the 2 octave skip easy to negotiate, and the pitches easy to match.
another more interesting and adventurous possibilty is this fingering:
c#
TR xxx / ooo Eb - This is like playing a top space high G# and adding the 2nd
S2 from the top right side key and the right pinky Eb. For some
students, this has also been a viable option, but it takes a little time getting used to in the 2 octave descent.. GBK.
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Author: Luanne
Date: 2001-09-22 22:37
GBK,'
Everyone has their own opinions about fingerings and the fingering I gave was for an R-13 or an RC! Long F in this instance doesn't quite have the "zing" needed in this particular case. JMHO. I play an RC and my instructor at the time I was doing that piece uses an R-13. Just my 2 cents.
Luanne
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-09-22 23:00
Luanne...The fingering that you suggested for the opening of Weber #2: "...the regular F fingering without the Eb key and add the throat G#..." is even more flat than the "standard" high F (which we all know is horribly under pitch on the R-13). Your fingering suggestion is one which I had never heard of (an apparently neither had Tom Ridenour as it is not listed anywhere in his book of fingerings) If you can play that fingering in tune, more power to you. As a professional clarinetist/teacher for more than 40 years I stand behind my initial 2 suggestions, and can offer 3 others if so needed. The best...GBK
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