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 Lyrique 576 colour issue
Author: sistaskriket 
Date:   2025-03-27 22:24

I have had my Ridenour Lyrique for some years. It's made of Ebonit. After some years it became greenish all over. Very unpleasant looking. No way I could sell it in this condition. Anyone who knows anything about this mystery, please let me know.

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 Re: Lyrique 576 colour issue
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2025-03-27 22:51

Try rubbing a little cork grease on the body. That can help if it's only slightly discolored. If it's heavily faded (which unfortunately mine were after only a few years of careful indoor use) then the body needs to be re-died which is a difficult process and not one I would recommend DIYing.

-JDbassplayer



Post Edited (2025-03-27 22:51)

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 Re: Lyrique 576 colour issue
Author: David H. Kinder 
Date:   2025-03-28 01:40

On the old ClarinetPages website under the Lyrique 576bc listing:

What do you do for hard rubber that turns drab olive in color?

Here's the answer from Tom Ridenour:

Get some good black shoe/leather stain (not shoe polish, but stain that will soak in). Apply it, let it dry and then rub it down.

The rubber does not change colour. The black dye leaches out; natural rubber is white/ivory coloured.

Ridenour AureA Bb clarinet
Vandoren BD5 HD 13-series mouthpiece
Vandoren Optimum Silver ligature (plate 1)
Vandoren #4 Blue-box reeds

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 Re: Lyrique 576 colour issue
Author: Doug Leach 
Date:   2025-03-30 00:32

The rubber is not dyed, it is pigmented black, and the black pigment does not leach out. The green color arises from the amine antioxidant which is used in the rubber formulation. The pure amine antioxidant itself is white, but it's oxidation product which forms over time is the green color. This is the cause of the discoloration. The same thing is observed in vintage rubber mouthpieces, like older Kaspar's or Chedevilles.

Doug Leach

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 Re: Lyrique 576 colour issue
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2025-03-30 02:36

Ebonite turning green/orange or smelling like sulphur is all part of the course - it's just ebonite doing what ebonite does.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Lyrique 576 colour issue
Author: ClarinetGod 
Date:   2025-03-30 20:18

Imagine supporting racism

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