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Author: abrogard
Date: 2019-06-26 09:36
Attachment: reveille.jpg (75k)
I am the merest beginner.
This piece: Reveille. I can't get through it without losing notes because out of breath.
Can anyone help? Perhaps clues on breathing generally or perhaps some idea where in this piece I should draw a breath?
Does this make me tragically short of breath? Normally would anyone at all be able to go straight through this?
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Author: kdk
Date: 2019-06-26 12:20
Just to be clear - you aren't expecting to play the whole page on one breath, are you?
There are obvious places where the phrase ends with a long note where you would naturally breathe. For instance, the note at the end of the first staff is a "pick-up" to the faster passage on staff 2. Breathe before this pick-up note. At bar 18 there's another pick-up on beat 2 - breathe before it (after the tied note).
If those kinds of phrase ends/beginnings are too far apart for comfort, find a place where you can "catch" a quick breath to get you to the next phrase end.
Be careful that you aren't blowing so hard and playing so loud that you're using your air too fast. The louder you play, the more often you need to breathe. So play as loud or soft as the music seems to need (this is a military bugle call, so it's loud, but don't force it or distort the sound) but know that you'll have to breathe more often for loud (forte) playing.
Karl
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Author: abrogard
Date: 2019-06-26 13:03
I seem to run out of puff between bars 25 to 27. Even though I take a breath before that quaver in bar 20.
Thank you for the advice. I'll work on it.... I think that play quiet and conserve the breath is important, I've been trying to be too loud, too military...
:)
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2019-06-26 16:05
Looking at bar 20, where you breathe, through bar 27, when you've run out of breath, hmm. That's not very far.
At your given tempo, can you take a breath and then hold a single sustained note for the length of those seven bars? If not, then you would undoubtedly benefit from practicing long tones. (Note, I'm assuming you're not blasting at top of your lungs during this passage, but playing mf to f.)
If you can sustain a single note that length of time, but run out of breath playing the printed notes, then are you articulating with puffs of air? If so, don't do that. Articulation is done by stopping the vibration of the reed when required with a light touch of the tip of the tongue - the breath is not involved.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2019-06-26 19:03
abrogard wrote:
> I've been
> trying to be too loud, too military...
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Or maybe just too trumpet-y.
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-06-26 20:23
First of all, this is a bugle call........but not Reveille as I know it. Secondly I am seeing clear four bar phrases (making adjustments for pickups and ending notes of phrases). Thirdly, even for a bugle call there is a lot of stasis toward the end, so I assume this is part of an arrangement for a group of some sort.
We need a trumpet player to identify just exactly what call this is.......weird.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: abrogard
Date: 2019-06-27 00:58
Attachment: COVER.GIF (63k)
"Looking at bar 20, where you breathe, through bar 27, when you've run out of breath, hmm. That's not very far."
I can actually voice dah,di,di,dah,dah and so on for those whole seven bars in one breath so I guess I'm not articulating correctly.
Back to the drawing board, thanks for the tip, very good.
:)
The music is actually 'Trumpet and Bugle Calls for The Army' 1966, a Department of Defence Publication, I think, for the British Army, that is.
In '66 I'm expecting the calls to be the same as during WWII hence it's kind of a historic piece.
Public Domain by now I'd expect. Hence I can give you a copy if you like.
P.S. The 'not the Reveille I know' wouldn't be actually 'Rouse' would it, perhaps?
System won't let me add an attachment on an edit but if you'd like to see Rouse I can attach to another post.
Post Edited (2019-06-27 01:05)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-06-27 03:13
Here are my suggestions:
Between quarters of bar 4
Between quarters of bar 8
Between last two eighths of bar 12
Between quarters of bar 18
Between last eighths of bar 22
After quarter of bar 28
After quarter of bar 34
After dotted quarter of bar 38
After dotted quarter of bar 42
After quarter of bar 46
After quarter of bar 50
After quarter of bar 54
After quarter of bar 60
Well at least that's how I hear a bugle playing this in my head.
............Paul Aviles
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Author: abrogard
Date: 2019-06-27 03:41
Thank you for that.
I think that's going to be good but I'll have to practice it, get this skill of drawing a really quick breath.
I have that little bugle call book up on my google photos. Here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8cgGnDdp3CTZGmJ39
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