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Author: complexmic
Date: 2019-02-10 11:47
How do you guys switch clarinets using the same mouthpiece with fabric ligature? The reed is held less tight with a fabric ligature and it is not easy to take the mouthpiece out with the reed remained in place. Thanks in advance!
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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-02-10 14:12
Why not just use the same barrel on the B-flat and A clarinet? In this case the barrel is also warm. Of course, you have to find a barrel that works on both clarinets.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2019-02-10 20:00
complexmic wrote:
> How do you guys switch clarinets using the same mouthpiece with
> fabric ligature? The reed is held less tight with a fabric
> ligature and it is not easy to take the mouthpiece out with the
> reed remained in place. Thanks in advance!
Depends a little on which ligature you mean. You just have to tighten them enough to hold on, which may be tighter than you prefer from a playing standpoint. I find slippage especially with a Versa X, which I like very much otherwise. If I make sure the mouthpiece cork is well greased it works.
Karl
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Author: kdk
Date: 2019-02-10 20:05
ruben wrote:
> Why not just use the same barrel on the B-flat and A clarinet?
Many of us need barrels of different lengths for A and Bb clarinets. And , of course, you can't use the same barrel between a C clarinet and either of the other sopranos.
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-02-10 20:14
Karl,
You need a C clarinet mouthpiece on a C clarinet. And I think if you're not switching at the barrel between A and Bb you're just missing out on another aspect of keeping intonation in line.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: marcia
Date: 2019-02-10 21:14
>You need a C clarinet mouthpiece on a C clarinet
I beg to differ. I have played "C" clarinet using my standard "Bb" mouthpiece with no problem.
Marcia
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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-02-10 23:49
So have I. -on my Ridenour C, at any rate. On a late-19th century C I have, I use a German mouthpiece.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2019-02-11 00:06
Paul Aviles wrote:
> Karl,
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> You need a C clarinet mouthpiece on a C clarinet.
No. My Noblet C takes a Bb mouthpiece. My Patricola does, too, and that was the factory recommendation.
It depends on the design of the instrument.
Karl
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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-02-11 00:17
Dear KDK: how does your Patricola C compare with your Noblet? Is it far better. I wonder whether my Ridenour isn't an ebonite copy of a Noblet. It's good, at any rate, and the thick-walled ebonite eliminates a lot of the bad harmonic associated with Cs.
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2019-02-11 03:11
I switch the barrel with the mouthpiece too. The A and Bb tune the same and are the same width bore, so it works fine. For many, it doesn't, though. A typical solution is to sand the mouthpiece cork and grease the heck out of it so it comes off easily without being too loose. Even with metal ligatures, they can play better with a lot of reeds if you don't tighten them a lot, so it's a common problem.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-02-11 05:12
Yeah, there has been a tendency of late to make more Bb clarinet mouthpiece friendly C clarinets. Not traditionally that way. I prefer to think of them still that way.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: kdk
Date: 2019-02-11 07:02
The Noblet's scale is better. When I bought the Patricola it came with serious tuning issues that I naively thought could be fixed. Thanks to some extensive work Morrie Backun did on it, it's much better and is usable with a little humoring of certain notes. The Noblet is better in tune. They are different-sounding instruments, though I don't really prefer one over the other.
Between the two the Noblet is still my preference because of the tuning. If you find a Patricola C that plays in tune (might very well be the rule and mine the exception - I haven't tried any others), it has a few very nice design features, notably an extra vent linked to the regular throat Bb fingering that very much improves the Bb's tone quality and (if you like having one) a LH low Eb key.
Karl
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