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Author: Micaela
Date: 2001-06-06 21:16
I'm huffing and puffing through this piece (very literally). If you've played it, you know the endurance that it takes!
Anyway, my teacher loaned me a record of Benny Goodman playing it. I'd like to find this recording on CD but it seems to be out of print except as part of a box set entitled "The Copland Collection." Is there anywhere I can get it? I tried gemm.com without success.
I already have Stanley Drucker's recording, which I don't like all that much and my teacher strongly disapproves of. He also recommends David Shifrin's recording, but I can't find that one either! Are there any other good ones? I can't stand Stoltzman, so I won't get his and that leaves, well, very few.
Oh, well. If I can't find it maybe I'll get the whole set- I like Copland. But if it's out there, I'd like to get it.
Thanks,
Micaela
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Author: Judy
Date: 2001-06-06 22:52
I bought the Benny Goodman recording a couple of weeks ago from Amazon.com. It is on a
CBS Records Masterworks Disk, #MK 42227, and the CD is entitled Benny Goodman Collector's Edition.
I heard a Stoltzman recording of the Copland Concerto on the car radio sometime this past week-end. I think it was with the London Symphony Orchestra. It was a stellar performance - and I intend to search it out and order it. Your post reminded me.
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Author: joseph o'kelly
Date: 2001-06-07 00:42
I like the Paul Myer recording of this piece. He also plays the Mozart Concerto on this CD. This is a great recording.
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-06-07 04:53
I really enjoyed the Reginald Kell (continuation) article in THE CLARINET (ICA Journal) --- "Clarinetist Without a Country, Part II"
I found it (very) interesting Goodman took lessons from Kell on legit play (nobody had to teach Goodman how to play Jazz or Swing!). Of course, Kell was arguably the best classical player of his day.
Best,
mw
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Author: graham
Date: 2001-06-07 08:08
There is a stunning recording by some Scandanavian guy on (I think) Naxos.
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Author: Ken
Date: 2001-06-07 09:55
I've got a 1980 live radio performance of Harold Wright/Boston Symphony with Copland conducting that's my fav.
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Author: Bill
Date: 2001-06-07 13:25
Mark,
On the subject of Kell teaching Goodman, I read not long ago that Goodman played a B&H 1010 for awhile because Kell played them. And, I do recall seeing a photo of Benny playing, and the barrel of his clarinet is the unmistakable barrel of a 1010 (they look like nothing else). YET, the truth is for most of his playing years Kell used a French Martel.
But what was my point here?! Hmmmmmm.
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Author: graham
Date: 2001-06-07 15:01
I,m surprised to hear that Kell played on a 101. I thought it was only a Martel. The most obvious appearance feature of a 1010 is a bell without a ring on the end.
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Author: Linus Travelli
Date: 2001-06-07 17:01
why are you opposed to those people, micaela?
(stoltzman, drucker, etc)
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2001-06-07 21:01
Thank you for all of your replies.
Linus- My teacher disapproves of Drucker. I don't like his tone all that much, but I'm not as opposed as my teacher; he says Drucker has lots of technique but no style. I'm not sure why I dislike Stoltzman, I've just never connected to his playing.
Benny Goodman played an R-13 at least some of the time. I saw it at the Met in New York.
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Author: -
Date: 2001-06-08 08:35
Michaela,
And did your teacher hold down one of the most prized clarinet orchestral positions in the world for nearly hald a century? Maybe your teacher is jealous that Drucker is world class, in the performance field, and he isn't.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-06-08 13:11
You know, not everything is based on jealousy. There are a number of world-class clarinetists whose playing I don't personally like very much. If I had their talent I most assuredly would not play with the same tone or style or whatever - I hold a different opinion on how they should sound.
But that opinion doesn't detract from their performances, and others are left free to like or dislike those performers.
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2001-06-08 13:50
I don't see my teacher as jealous, I just see him as fairly opinionated. He says of Marcellus's Mozart Concerto "That's just the best recording, that's the way it should be played." I'm equally opinionated at times- see what I think of Stoltzman? I'm not jealous that he's world-famous and that I'm not; I just don't like his playing very much.
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Author: Suzanne
Date: 2001-06-11 03:48
I got at towerrecords.com the "Benny Goodman Collector's Edition, Compositions & Collaborations" where he plays Copland, Stravinsky Ebony Concerto, Bernstein Prelude, Fugue and Riffs, etc., all conducted by the composers, and it was less than $20.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2001-06-11 13:11
There is the old Meeting at the Summit LP recording on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1435921038
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Author: Daniel
Date: 2001-06-13 05:43
The recording that Judy mentions is the better of the two recordings with Copland that Benny did. It was done early 1963.
The first recording he did was on the premier with Reiner conducting in November of 1950. It's just aweful. I ran across an old radio transcription of it and he squeaks and cracks the high nted all over the place. Then about a week later he recorded with Copland, i can't find that recording but i recon it's probably not much better.
But the 1963 recording on the is my favorite recording of all time of the Copland. Sure alot of symphony players can nail the first page and a half better than Benny could. As far as tuning and intervals go. But I love how he plays the cadenza and the second half of the piece. Very few modern players that i've heard, especially people who have strictly classical training, can nail the interpretation like Benny could.
Daniel
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