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Author: BGBG
Date: 2017-02-19 09:58
For A6 I have one chart that shows the Right hand fingering the L side top key and another showing fingering R side top key of the 4 lower key group bottom section.
Which is correct or does it matter? Puzzling. I am just now learning these notes.
L top R top
L bottom R bottom
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-02-19 10:13
For ![[A5]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/a5.gif) the fingering is: Sp.Th. xxo|ooo
(Another thing you can do much later on is the fingering Sp.Th. xxx|Side Eb/Bb ooo when trilling G-A as that can be done with LH finger 1 on the side Eb/Bb key with more ease and far less fatigue than trilling with LH finger 3)
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-02-19 10:18
But if you mean ![[A6]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/a6.gif) then that's up in the altissimo register and fingered as:
Sp.Th. oxx|ooo F/C - the funny thing with this fingering is it should really be an altissimo Bb if clarinets followed the rules of physics. But they don't and it's an incredibly flat Bb that passes itself off as a very well tuned altissimo A.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BGBG
Date: 2017-02-19 10:29
Actually it is I believe called the altissimo and is the note sitting on the 4th line above the top line of staff (I do not know how to show a picture) abd it is called " A6 " on my two charts. There are 4 keys at the bottom of lower section. When I look at the chart one shows the top R key pressed and the other shows the top L key pressed like this:
Top Left Right
Bottom L R
6R 7R
8R 9R
On Hal Leonard chart
So I am wondering if it is the LEFT or the RIGHT key. It is shown blackened in on the charts. I have not played the note yet but was trying to figure out the fingering.
The Basic Santorella chart 2011 shows the upper left key blackened, while the Music Scales America Hal Leonard calls it the 7R which is the upper right key listed when viewing clarinet like facing the diagram or the player. I hope this is helpful as this is rather new to me and I may not be explaining it clearly.
Maybe when I try playing them it will be obvious but it was confusing to see opposite keys listed for the same note.
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Author: BGBG
Date: 2017-02-19 10:34
Actually Chris it is the note in your 3rd reply which I didn't see because I was composing a reply. The clarinet is a Bb clarinet but the note in question is the A6 as you have it pictured. This is first time I have tried to learn or play these notes. I had been using the Santorella chart but I noticed this discrepancy when I took out the other chart to see the keys better.
Also not sure what the throat keys are. Maybe the ones I am referring to? I do not know what to call these bottom 4 keys on the lower section near the bell.
Post Edited (2017-02-19 10:47)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-02-19 18:56
The RH pinky key is the one normally specified for altissimo notes (depending which key gives the best results), but as the LH and RH pinky keys are largely duplicated, it won't make any difference which of the duplicated keys you use.
But if not all the pinky keys are duplicated, such as the Ab/Eb key (which some clarinets have the LH lever fitted to duplicate it but most don't), then some altissimo intervals may require sliding the RH pinky from one touchpiece to another instead of alternating between right and left pinkies for practical reasons.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BGBG
Date: 2017-02-19 21:06
Thanks for the info. I am not well informed about the exact names of keys or the musicians way of describing or naming them, and up to now I never ventured into the altissimo range or the reasons for alternate fingerings. I have discovered some notes wll sound the same even though certain keys are pressed that make no difference. I see I need to search for info regarding these things. Since the lower section I use the right pinky on all these 4 keys if needed but I won't say I have used all keys and there are some keys I never have used at all and know nothing about.
Now that I am working on altissimo as I never expected I would, I will no doubt learn a lot more through practice and research.
I should have realized there might be two ways of fingering this note instead of assuming one way was 'correct' and the other was an error. Some charts label alternate fingerings as such so i did know they exist. Just never used them.
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Author: BGBG
Date: 2017-02-20 03:16
Doing better but had to pull the barrel out 2 mm to get the tuner to show the correct note for A6. It shows between G and G#, fluctuating but not right on steady.
Would someone please refresh me on what the A440 tuner should read when I play a concert pitch fingered note on clarinet? I am getting confused over this- is it always one half step less or does it vary? Like if I finger a C note it reads Bb and matches a Bb on my keyboard. But some seem to be 1 step and I am unsure if I am playing it wrong pitch or if expecting the wrong note.
If I had a chart of this it would help but have not found one yet.
I DO have one. I found one I made awhile back when I got the tuner.
Post Edited (2017-02-20 04:33)
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2017-02-20 04:18
The Bb clarinet always sounds 1 whole tone (2 semitones) lower than the fingered pitch.
So you finger C, you get Bb. That's why it's called the Bb clarinet.
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Author: BGBG
Date: 2017-02-20 07:25
I thought I wrote a reply thanking you,Caroline, but I do not see it so maybe it didn't post. I finally found my conversion chart also and that will help because it gets confusing if I think too much about it. Haven't thought about these things for a long while but need it now for just starting altissimo.
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