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Author: Joanne
Date: 1999-08-18 06:34
Can anybody tell me the difference between these reeds - physical and feel?
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Author: Katherine Pincock
Date: 1999-08-18 12:47
physically, the V12 reed is thicker at the butt of the reed--if you get two to compare, the size difference is noticeable. This means that the tip on a V12 reed is made of the wood closer to the heart of the cane, and that the V12 reed offers more leeway when scraping with a reed knife or polishing with sandpaper. As well, for me at least, the V12 reeds seem to last a lot longer than traditional reeds do.
In terms of the feel of the two, I found that when I first switched, the V12 felt really sluggish and stiff. However, once I got used to them, I found that I liked the feeling of resistance and strength that comes from a thicker heart on the reed. As well, now that I know how to do some basic reed fixing, I get more out of a box, because I'm not afraid to sand V12s down, whereas I always overdid it on traditional reeds.
Any other impressions of these two types?
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Author: William Fuller
Date: 1999-08-18 16:32
I played VanDorens for twenty+ years (trad. #3-4 & V12 # 5) and found the good reeds to be great, but most of the reeds to be very inconsistant and most unworkable. Recently, I have been playing Marca Superieure (#4s) and have been having great results. They are more consistant than VDs and most are playable with minor adjustments. I find that sanding is unnecessary--balancing the sides is usually all that is required. FYI. Good luck. PS--as a VD user, I preferred the V-12s, #5+ which I worked down to about a 31/2 after lots of sanding, scaping and balancing to my mp.
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Author: angella
Date: 1999-08-19 02:08
i like the v-12's better. i've found that they have more resistance, as katherine said. they seem to last longer for me. i use a 4 and do little work other than very minor balancing.
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Author: Daniel
Date: 1999-08-19 03:39
Personally, V-12's don't work with my Kaspar. So i use Traditional 3.5's. I can play the same traditional for about a month or more without rotating. With rotating i can use the same three reeds or so for several months.
The V-12's on my mouthpiece have a very rash and bright reedy sound. And i have to constantly resoak them every few minutes. The problem i see with the V-12's is that the heart is nice and thick, but the tips are just as thin as the regular traditionals. They sacrifice alot of quality and consistancy that they could have, for quantity. They reduced their cutting from 3 cuts to 2 cuts, even on their V-12's. If they would go back to the way they used to back in the purple box days, they'd probably keep people who have drifted to other brands like Grand Concert and Australia, etc.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 1999-08-19 05:18
You can read in quite detail about V12 searching Klarinet archive.Short info.
1)V12 is one of off-springs of old MORRE reeds.(You can read a quite detailed description of MORRE by Greg Smith in Klarinet archive).It is a narrow width german cut reed.
2)Typical shape is a thick heel.About 3.2mm.Traditional Vandoren's is 2.8mm(I guess).This gives a good focus to tones.
3)Although thick,they use less dense part of bigger diameter canes.
4)Especially good for long facing mouthpieces like Greg-Smith,M13,Kasper,B40,and 5RV.It may not match with bigger opening mouthpieces like B44 or B45.
5)By pushing mouthpiece deeper into my mouth using right thum and giving wider vibration freedom to reed,I feel my clarinet sounds better when I use V12.
6)Other thick heel reeds I tried.
Zonda:This is very consistent and emit darker tones.Very beautiful cane.(American people may like its sound).
Olivieri:Used to be very good.It looked like a gold bullion. Now different owner.I do not know its present quality.
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Author: Sara
Date: 1999-08-21 02:33
I went looking for that artical you mentioned about V12's and I couldn't seem to find it do you think you could point me in the right direction?
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Author: bassclgirl92
Date: 2016-03-05 18:28
I can't say for clarinet, but I slapped a fresh out of the wrapper #3 V12 on my bass and tried to play it without even breaking it in, out of curiosity. It responded immediately. I tried this with three more reeds in the box and each responded immediately. I was thrilled I didn't have to sand any of them, as I always had to with the traditional #3s. I might try them on my Bb since the results have been so good.
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Author: TAS
Date: 2016-03-06 06:24
The mouthpiece will dictate the reed.
I prefer the V12 on my Theodore Johnson TJ3+
On Kaspers when I was much younger I bought Vandoren 5's and worked on them.
TAS
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