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 Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Titus 
Date:   2016-01-31 20:09

Hey guys,

I am currently taking auditions to transfer schools from my current one. Two schools that are intriguing but I don't have too much information about are Temple University and Rutgers. Does anyone have experience with those two schools?

I am a music education major but is looking to further my studies on the instruments and possibly pursue a performance masters degree.

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2016-02-01 01:50

St Olaf College in MN has both; so does Gustavus Adolphus in MN. I know the clarinet profs at both (both are excellent teachers) and music ed students at Gustavus.

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Steven Ocone 
Date:   2016-02-01 02:05

Both are large public universities that will have good music departments. Temple is urban. Rutgers a little less so. I seem to remember that Rutgers is spread out over 2 campuses. Philadelphia would be a more interesting place to live.

Steve Ocone


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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Owen 
Date:   2016-02-01 04:15

Florida State University, University of Texas at Austin, University of North Texas-Denton, University of Georgia, University of Michigan, Michigan State University, etc.

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2016-02-01 04:52

Temple has a 2 or 3 instructors from the Philly Orchestra. Hard to beat that.


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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Titus 
Date:   2016-02-01 07:01

@Owen I am applying to Northwestern, UMich, etc. too. Just wanted to know more about these schools that I don't have as much knowledge about. Thanks!

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Filettofish 
Date:   2016-02-01 17:42

Granted I may be showing a bit of bias, but Ithaca College has a first rate music education program as well as a reputable department of performance studies.

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: kdk 
Date:   2016-02-02 02:22

Temple has a great many Phila Orchestra members on its ancillary faculty. It has strong orchestral and band programs, and the campus is easily accessible to downtown Philadelphia with its music (including the Philadelphia Orchestra), theater, restaurants and sports. The campus has grown tremendously over the past several years and is still expanding and replacing older buildings. The full time faculties in both the music and music education departments are strong. I took two performance degrees there 40 years ago and my son finished his Bach. of Music Ed a little over ten years ago. I don't know about the other schools you've considered, but Temple's music ed program is self-contained within the College of Music - there is no connection between it and the university College of Education. Only core academics are scheduled outside the music school.

The campus has evolved from a commuter school that emptied at night to a very alive place with a large resident student body. I play in a reading orchestra on the campus (not affiliated with Temple, but they let us use the rehearsal space). The area is still very active at 10:15 PM when we start our trip home from Presser Hall (the main music building).

I don't know anything about Rutgers, so I can't make the comparison. I can only write about Temple, but it's a worthwhile school.

Karl and

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Christopher Bush 
Date:   2016-02-02 08:57

I have taught a number of former Rutgers students, performance and Music Education. They had solid fundamentals on the instrument and were knowledgeable musicians.

I have to put in a plug for my school over in the city, NYU. I do know that all of the graduates from the masters Music Ed program last Spring had teaching jobs starting in the Fall. Many had offers well before they actually graduated. We have a thriving performance program with a top-notch faculty. I'd be happy to talk with you about the program away from this board, if you'd like. Email me and we'll talk. I'm a little reticent to do to much open advertisement on the board. I trust that a moderator will delete this message if I've gone a bit too far with this message.

Either way, good luck with your search!

Christopher Bush
Prof. of Clarinet - NYU
Princ. Clarinet - Glens Falls Symphony, Metro Chamber Orchestra
Director - NYU Composers Ensemble



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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2016-02-02 11:31

Since you are taking auditions, have you thought about Yale? Not too far from Philly and you get to audition for David Shifrin! A very nice guy! If you take auditions at Temple and or Yale, be relaxed, all of these guys are really on your side. I know them all. They want you to play great! Actually, I don't know them all, just Paul, Ricardo, and David. There is an opening with the Philly Orch. for a clarinetist. Not sure what position. Maybe bass clarinet/2nd? Get those resume's out!


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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: tylerleecutts 
Date:   2016-02-02 15:55

For Music Education you should probably consider studying in the state you would like to teach in for both the credentials of certification and networking for employment.

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 Re: Phila Orch opening
Author: kdk 
Date:   2016-02-02 22:51

Bob Bernardo wrote:

> There is an
> opening with the Philly Orch. for a clarinetist. Not sure what
> position. Maybe bass clarinet/2nd? Get those resume's out!
>

Off the OP's topic, Bob, but are they advertising this? I haven't heard about it, but they have had only three contracted clarinetists since Raoul Querze retired. Has to do, I was told, with the contractual maximum complement in the newest agreement they reached during the bankruptcy. Someone else would apparently need to retire before another clarinetist could be hired. It would be great if they restored the fourth player. Probably 2nd clarinet (Querze's old position) unless Paul Demurs changes positions - he's currently the bass clarinetist.

Karl

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: kdk 
Date:   2016-02-02 22:53

Important to consider, but many states have reciprocal agreements as far as certification is concerned. It's worth investigating ahead of time if you plan to teach somewhere outside the state where your chosen school is located.

Karl

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 Re: Colleges with Ed + Good Performance
Author: Agomongo 
Date:   2016-02-03 07:57

I visited Rutgers and Temple. Well I didn't like Temple, because of the neighborhood, HOWEVER the faculty is quite amazing.

When I went to Rutgers I absolutely loved it and Jessica Phillips and Dr. Hurd. Both of whom are geniuses and VERY good teachers. I feel like Rugers has a lot of options being close to New York City, but that's just my opinion.

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