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 Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-10-30 09:59

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2015-10-30 11:07

The photo gets an error page.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Clarineteer 
Date:   2015-10-30 13:47

Here again is my prized mint Buescher Tru Tone 730 which is yet another great example of a pro clarinet made in the USA.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-10-30 16:53

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-10-30 17:20

Still get the error message thing.

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Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-10-30 17:21

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: fskelley 
Date:   2015-10-30 17:23

Perhaps you need to rename the photo? Characters like "#" may cause issues. You could spell out "Csharp".

Stan in Orlando

EWI 4000S with modifications

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-10-30 17:32
Attachment:  Bettoney Csharp key.jpg (142k)

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-10-30 17:34

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-10-30 21:08

Some B&H clarinets also had a tab on the C#/G# key to lift the linkage piece to close the LH2 ring key pad to make a C#/Db-D#/Eb trill easy, so you only have to trill with LH finger 2 and probably LH finger 3 as well.

I had a Selmer 10S where I glued a matchstick to the top side of the LH2 linkage so it engaged with the C#/G# cup arm to do the same thing - a more permanent version could easily be made from a brass or nickel silver bar and hard soldered in place.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-10-30 22:50

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-10-30 22:55

I've seen it on B&H clarinets with Mazak keys - either early Regents or B&H "77"s, but not all of them. I think either Jack Brymer or Antony Baines also mentions it in his book.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: donald 
Date:   2015-10-31 09:24

Mazzeo writes about this in his book- he had this feature added to his personal customised Mazzeo clarinet. There are a few disadvantages to it- you can't use the C#/G# key to sharped E and F above middle C, and there are a few altissimo fingerings (admittedly seldom used) and certain microtonal fingerings become impossible (only relevant if you play modern repertoire).
If these details don't bother you then this is a very useful key. I have often thought of getting my friend to install this with a "clutch" so I can disengage it when playing modern music, and I often use of the C#/G# to sharpen E.
dn

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-10-31 10:11

Some Oehler systems have a clutch to engage or disengage the patent C# mechanism from the E/B key (it's usually engaged to make low E-F# and B-C# trills easy), so maybe a similar clutch can be fitted to the LH2 ring linkage.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: donald 
Date:   2015-11-01 13:53

My friend (who trained as an instrument maker) has a clutch on the articulated C#/G# on his bass clarinet, that he retrofitted... I'm sure it would be no problem.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-11-01 22:04

I've had a linkage arm (with an adjusting screw) fitted to my Buffet bass to make the C#/G# articulated so it's now linked to the RH main action.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: donald 
Date:   2015-11-02 13:02

Great minds think alike- Maurice made a similar linkage, but designed it to have a "clutch"

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-11-02 13:19

Here's the linkage piece I had fitted to my Buffet bass:

http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/Keywork/CP2/01.jpg
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/Keywork/CP2/02.jpg
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/Keywork/CP2/06.jpg
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/Keywork/CP2/07.jpg
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/Keywork/CP2/08.jpg

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Is this key feature unique to vintage Bettoney clarinets?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-11-02 21:10

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Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-11-08 02:01

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