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Author: alexispianokeys
Date: 2014-10-27 15:20
of course im talking about High Open F#.
I'm working on intonation of all high notes and i see improvements but this F#..oh...Always -20 at my tuner...Nothing obvious I can do..:/
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-10-27 15:44
What fingering are you using?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-10-27 15:49
Firstly, when you say "F#" are you talking about concert pitch (what the tuner is reading) or are you referring to the written note on you music?
Concert pitch = the written note: sitting on top of the fourth line above the staff
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The written note = sitting above the third line above the staff
Any way I think about it, I cannot imagine an OPEN note that matches what you're talking about, so there may be a simple fingering problem here.
..........Paul Aviles
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Author: alexispianokeys
Date: 2014-10-27 16:30
I'm taking the 4th f# the clarinet can normally play.this one above the third line above the staff.how can I give u my fingering?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-10-27 18:06
One of many fingerings for altissimo F# is: Sp. Th. xxo|xxx Ab/Eb
Another easy one is upper register Bb (Sp. Th. xxo| side Eb/Bb ooo) overblown to F#.
Your best bet is to try out as many different fingerings for altissimo F# to see which one is best in tune with you and your clarinet as altissimo notes and fingerings are variable in their tuning among all makes of clarinet.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-10-27 18:57
I concur totally with the second fingering given by Chris. It may be a bit of a coordination issue moving to/from the F natural below, but you just take of the second left hand finger to move up to G and both notes speak really well and are in tune without any stress!
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-10-27 22:20
The fingering shown in most tutors "sp th oxo ooo"is very flat on every clarinet I have ever tried (some 500-1000).
The second fingering given by Chris is usually very good, the "long" fingering is also often a fine and in tune note but not as strong but is easier ot overblow and is very useful in pianissimo.
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Author: John Peacock
Date: 2014-10-28 00:04
I first learned Sp. Th oxo|ooo Ab/Eb for F# (and it's very nearly fair to describe this as "open"). But when I started using an R13 it was immediately clear that this fingering was unusably flat compared to the surrounding notes. At first I thought I had a bad instrument, but after trying other examples and talking to people, I concluded it was just the way R13s were. I've never had information on RCs, but it wouldn't be surprising if they shared this behaviour. But Chris P's overblown Bb (Sp. Th. xxo | side Eb/Bb ooo) is a beautiful note on the R13 - in tune and stable, so you can do pp entries using it with confidence. I've recently started using different instruments where the "proper" F# is in tune, and now I miss the R13 fingering, which no longer works :(
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Author: GBK
Date: 2014-10-28 00:24
It's pretty standard knowledge that the standard textbook F# fingering of:
TR oxo/ooo Ab/Eb
can be greatly improved by adding the RH sliver key.
However, an even better solution is to add the RH F# key instead of the Ab/Eb.
...GBK
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2014-10-28 00:36
The best fingering I've found is the "long F" (6 fingers plus the C#/G key) plus the Ab/Eb key.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-10-28 14:55
Mr. Peacock,
Interesting citation referring to this (Sp. Th. xxo | side Eb/Bb ooo) as an R13 fingering. Students of mine on various brands of various levels of horn benefit from this fingering. What is the current "weapon of choice" to which you refer?
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-10-28 17:05
I was always told never to use the short altissimo F# fingering due to the poor quality of this note - it's alright as a trill fingering, but not as a regular note.
Have a look at the various fingerings for altissimo F#:
http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_alt_3.html
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2014-10-28 17:07)
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