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 Grad school
Author: Megan 
Date:   2000-06-30 01:34

Hi! I am goign to major in music and I wondering what kind of job opportunities there are in teaching. are high school band director jobs hard to get? How about grad school: does it have to be funded by the student or is there normally full rides? What kind of jobs are there available with a doctorate in music ed?

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 RE: Grad school
Author: steve 
Date:   2000-06-30 01:41

Howdy megan...on the Klarinet-l, there is a wonderfully knowledgable professor of music (Ball State? Butler? Evansville?...I forget) named Ed Lacy, who has a reputation as a master educator. He could give you some very good answers. Do an archive search for his email...

good luck, s.

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 RE: Grad school
Author: Al 
Date:   2000-06-30 14:14

Megan:
Do you already have a bachelor's degree?
Were you a music major?
Do you have a master's degree? ( Don't worry about the doctorate yet.)

School administrators want Music Ed. trained candidates.
In some parts of the country, one CANNOT get a high school job without first teaching in elementary or middle school.
If you can be more specific, perhaps I can offer better
responses.
Best,
Al



steve wrote:
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Howdy megan...on the Klarinet-l, there is a wonderfully knowledgable professor of music (Ball State? Butler? Evansville?...I forget) named Ed Lacy, who has a reputation as a master educator. He could give you some very good answers. Do an archive search for his email...

good luck, s.

steve wrote:
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Howdy megan...on the Klarinet-l, there is a wonderfully knowledgable professor of music (Ball State? Butler? Evansville?...I forget) named Ed Lacy, who has a reputation as a master educator. He could give you some very good answers. Do an archive search for his email...

good luck, s.

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 RE: Grad school
Author: Kim L 
Date:   2000-06-30 15:22

Before you go to grad school to get your master's degree, you first need to choose a school to do your undergraduate work in to earn your bachelor's degree.

When you go to undergraduate school, you choose a major, and then you would major in that for four years. Once you graduate, you choose a graduate school to earn your master's degree. After you earn your master's, you can earn a Phd, or DMA(Doctor of Musical Arts), or other music degree.

If you are planning on earning a bachelor of science degree, you can become a music teacher and teach any grade level K-12. If you are planning on earning a bachelor of music degree, you can play in major orchestras. When you earn a Phd, or DMA, you can teach on the collegiate level.



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 RE: Grad school
Author: Dave Goss 
Date:   2000-07-01 13:17

I'm a 3rd out of 5 year music ed major, 21 years old, I live in Northern NJ. That'll help give you an idea of where I'm coming from...

Lucky for teachers, the next 5-10 years or so a LOT of jobs are going to be opening up, and already have. The Baby-Boomers, basically our parents, will be retiring over the next few years. Most of the school districts in my area are also anticipating a HUGE increase in enrollment over the next 5 years as well. This will benefit all new teachers.

Graduates from my school have had no problem getting jobs in elementary, middle, and high schools with only a bachelor's degree. But there is a major advantage in getting your MA. Most school districts figure out pay rates based on charts. If you have X years of experience with a Y degree you will be paid Z. Having an MA could bump up your salary 2,3, or 4 thousand a year.

I'm looking at graduate schools as well. One thing I've noticed is that many schools either require or recommend at least one year of teaching experience before applying. That's what I'm going to do.

As for paying for graduate school... Some school districts may provide some money for graduate credits. That's another reason to get a job before going to grad school. Another option to look into is graduate assistant opportunities. Basically you may work as an office person, give lessons, teach small, maybe large ensembles, in exchange for some or all tuition paid by the school.

Generally to teach in a college you'll need a doctorate. You may find some teachers who have 'Certificates' that equal a doctorate. You may also find teachers with MA's or BA's who are just REALLY good at what they do and teach in collge.

But just because you have a PhD or DMA doesn't mean you have to be stuck in a collge. My first clarinet teacher taught instrumental music in three K-5 elementary schools and had a PhD.

At this point all I can say is have fun and good luck. Most of the music majors in my school spend at least 12 hours of the day in the music building. After that many of us go out and hang for a few more hours. Music majors are a unique bunch compared to other majors. I'm sure you'll have a great time and learn a lot.

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