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Author: leonardA
Date: 2003-06-22 02:09
I just bought a Leblanc Noblet Bb clarinet on ebay. It has an "N" above the word "Noblet." Does anyone know what this means. I have heard of "D" Noblets. Is the N a different model or what.
Also the serial number is 40821. If anyone has a clue as to the age, I would appreciate knowing it.
Thanks. Leonard
Leonard
Post Edited (2003-06-23 14:44)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2003-06-22 21:01
Leonard, since no one has posted to help, I'll try. The older D Noblet , I believe, was the name of the man who took over the LeBlanc "marque" maybe in the 1930's [the history of this may be in our archives, search for it] . I have a VG Nob Eb ser.# 31xxx 1960's I believe, which has the N and includes Paris in a flat-ended oval, with France below it. and a LeBlanc L7 ser. # 43xxx, about 1980. These may help in dating your horn. Luck, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Dee
Date: 2003-06-23 01:42
The history of Leblanc is on their web site. Noblet was the original name of the company. However at around the turn of the century (around 1900), the owner had no heirs and so Mr. Noblet selected Leblanc to become the new owner of the company. Eventually the name was changed to Leblanc.
http://www.gleblanc.com
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2003-06-23 01:58
"D. Noblet" was for Denis Noblet, the original owner. I have always presumed the "N" above the logo simply meant Noblet, but maybe I am way off base on that one.
Regards,
John
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Author: Sue G
Date: 2003-06-24 17:40
Hi Leonard,
My noblet has an "N" on it too and is no 40703 so I guess it's a tad older than yours !!
How are you getting on with it ?
I've had the thumb rest highered today by a qualified repairer - think it'll be much better.
Regards
sue
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Author: clarinetqween
Date: 2003-06-25 15:25
I had a Leblanc Noblet as my intermediate instrument. It had a narrow bore and I had a close faced mouthpiece (some vandoren they do not even make anymore). I hated that beast SOOO MUCH and I was glad to see it go!
~clarinetqween
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Author: leonardA
Date: 2003-06-25 18:20
clarinetqueen, I'm surprised that your Noblet had a narrow bore. They are normally 0.584, which a larger bore. Maybe the problem was with your mouthpiece. Did you ever try it with a different mouthpiece?
Leonard
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Author: Roger Aldridge
Date: 2003-06-25 20:50
Leonard,
If it's of any help to you, my Noblet Bb clarinet has the N above the Noblet logo exactly as you described it. The serial number is 56266. My repair tech contacted Leblanc and determined that it's date of manufacture is 1966.
This is a superb clarinet and I don't think of it as an intermeditae level instrument. In talking with Ralph Morgan about my Noblet (which I only recently acquired and had overhauled) he told me that he holds older Noblet clarinets in high regard. In addition, after my repair tech completed the overhaul he described this clarinet as "one of the finest of this maker I have played". I really love the tonal qualities of this clarinet. The set up I'm using on it is a Morgan RM15 mouthpiece, Alexander Classique reeds, and either a brass or silver Francois Louis ligature.
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Author: cxl
Date: 2014-06-14 18:34
I also have one N NOBLET PARIS,SN is A21498.
Anyone know which year my clarinet was made????
les.cxl@gmail.com
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Author: clarinetfellow
Date: 2014-06-16 19:20
I too have a wooden Noblet N clarinet which I recently purchased from Ebay in excellent condition along with new pads. A real fine instrument along with my Vandoren 5lyre mouthpiece makes some wonderful tones. I'm very happy with this particular instrument. Must look at the serial number to determine the year of production. Can one find out based on the serial numbers as to the age. Mine has all mathing numbers. Thanks
cf
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Author: wanabe
Date: 2014-06-17 00:30
Go to this site to find the date of manufacture. You can also find a plethora of information on the many Leblanc clarinets. Yes, there are both "D" and "N" models out there. As previously stated the "D" stood for Denis. The "N" I'm not too sure of, but there are two variations of "N". One has a diamond surrounding the Noblet, sometimes a double diamond with the "N" inside of a small diamond at the top of and inside of the larger diamond. These are all model 45's and are the more desirable models. The models with either an oval or a rectangle with rounded corners, often called the television screen logo, are model 40's. The oval logos are "D's" and are the older ones. The 45's have better resale value and are very nice intermediate to semi-pro instruments, but that is not to say that the model 40's are not excellent intermediate instruments. The 45's have at least one variation, the "Artist". They were made with "select, aged wood". Take that for what it is worth coming from a marketing department, but these are very fine instruments. I have one of these as my main clarinet. It plays as easily and as well as a Buffet International. All of these instruments have the very sturdy Leblanc keywork. Many professionals will tell you that overall it is one of the best keywork systems ever made. The pecking order, at least from my prospective as a buyer/refurbisher/reseller among the model 40 and 45's goes something like this: 1. The "Artist", a double diamond "N" Noblet model 45. This is a great intermediate/semi-pro clarinet. 2. "N" Noblet, diamond or double diamond logo model 45. This is a very underrated intermediate clarinet. 3. "D" Noblet, oval logo. These are good beginner/intermediate clarinets.There is also a model 27 which is a model 40 with a plastic bell and barrel. These are very good instruments for young students and marching band players. The bell and barrel are the most likely places to develop cracks due to sun, heat, moisture, etc. The model 27's aren't as common as the model 40's, and can sometimes be picked up at a pretty nice price, but in the end it is still a model 40 with plastic bell and barrel and an underrated instrument. The Normandy's are a whole different subject, but suffice it to say that the Normandy 4 is also a favorite of mine. I rate the Normandy 4 right alongside of the model 40 Noblet.
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Author: clarinetfellow
Date: 2014-06-18 01:40
I have a Noblet Paris N clarinet with the TV shaped outline and serial number 23958. I cannot find out its year on the Leblanc site. Can anyone help me and give me any info regarding this instrument? Thank you
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Author: cyclopathic
Date: 2014-06-18 21:49
clarinetfellow wrote:
> I have a Noblet Paris N clarinet with the TV shaped outline and
> serial number 23958. I cannot find out its year on the Leblanc
> site. Can anyone help me and give me any info regarding this
> instrument? Thank you
>
> cf
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/clsnLeblancNoblet.htm
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