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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2014-05-31 00:13
I recently started two threads, one about Gregory Bateson (principally), and then one metapost, called 'Long posts', about responses to that thread.
There were two sorts of reaction:
Some people engaged with the content of the posts. In particular, JKL said EXACTLY what he found unacceptable about the first one, and I replied to him. I think our interaction moved the discussion on.
But there were other posts -- what Bateson would call, 'metaposts' (it means that they dealt, not with the content of what I wrote, but with WHY they thought I wrote it, and even with ME, personally) that simply tried to say that what I wrote was necessarily rubbish, and made fun of my attempt to talk about anything that they currently didn't understand.
(Unlike JKL, you notice.)
Eric Seddon said he didn't want to engage -- fair enough -- but then claimed falsely that *I* didn't really want to engage, and that my enquiries of him were 'tar babies'.
What does that really mean?
*I* think it means that HE doesn't think I'm a 'nice enough person to talk to' -- ha ha -- in which case, he should stay out of it.
Ken Shaw of course simply took the p*** -- but then, going further, ran into trouble in the shape of Mark Charette. (BTW, I take exception to Shaw's seeming denigration of Alan Sokal. Sokal's 'cod' submission to a supposedly reputable postmodern journal was intended to expose THEIR lack of integrity, not to be in any way valuable in itself. Sokal in his own voice is a distinguished writer.)
So, what do I want to say?
This: I take discussion here seriously, whether it's about technical details of clarinet playing or about philosophical issues. I think it's worthwhile engaging, because things get clarified that way.
So, stop fooling about.
Tony
Post Edited (2014-05-31 02:26)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2014-05-31 04:11
Tony -
My posting was a joke, deliberately written to mirror your unintelligible prose style. So was Mark's.
If you have any doubts, I suggest that you nominate your two brontosaurian screeds for the Keepers section and see whether they get in.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2014-05-31 05:41
Well, my prose style is nothing like what you claimed to 'mirror'.
Judith Butler's derided quote lacks clarity, but not intelligibility, to a peer audience of her field -- even if I myself have very little interest in that field.
What YOU wrote after quoting it was just puerile crap. You cherry-picked some words related to my own texts and strung them together in a typically amateurish way.
The link Mark Charette posted turned out actually to be interesting: rewriting Butler's quote shows it to be much more understandable, as 'Exercises in Style', scrolling down from the top, makes clear.
She's a serious person, judging from her other work.
Tony
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Author: Funfly
Date: 2014-05-31 20:48
Now then girls…...
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Clarinet - Yamaha SE Custom
Alto Sax - Yamaha YAS 480
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