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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-04-12 17:38
He says he's getting rid of 20 clarinets, yet the only other clarinet he has on auction is an Albert system C.
A whopper a day keeps the doctor away.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Bart Hendrix
Date: 2001-04-12 18:29
He is also selling at least a Selmer Centered Tone with a repaired bell. Maybe there is a problem with the search by seller function. On the other hand, he is also bidding on several other clarinets. If you were unloading your collection, why would you be trying to buy more? Does seem a bit strange.
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Author: Shelly
Date: 2001-04-12 18:32
Oh my! 10 hours a day for 1 1/2 years! I'm impressed........ yeah right!
Shelly <-------------- she may not be smart but she ain't that dumb!
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Author: Bill
Date: 2001-04-12 18:54
I like the comment about people screaming with excitement when the seller played it for them.
The seller will reset some of the pads to make it play perfectly if it's purchased now for $550. The sellers other clarinet also has some problems with newly installed pads needing adjustment.
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2001-04-12 19:51
I suspect he's a dealer. I've seen his "handle" on other auctions including the ones mentioned above.
Curious, heh?
John
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Author: Nate Zeien
Date: 2001-04-12 21:33
Interesting...
>This is an unusual clarinet. The only clarinet I've ever owned that made people
>scream with excitement when I played it.
Most people clap when they enjoy a performance. Hmmm... -- Nate Zeien
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Author: Mike Irish
Date: 2001-04-12 22:09
hmmmm... your right..... most clap, maybe whistle....
but scream? hmmm.... now my dog will howl when I am playing them high notes on the flute... thats it.... he plays so bad, or the horn sounds so bad that people are screaming to get away.... lol.......
Mike
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Author: Dee
Date: 2001-04-12 22:10
Bill wrote:
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> Here's another one (same seller), where the clarinet was
> allegedly made from a surplus WW II airplane propeller, and may
> be the most beautiful clarinet you've ever seen. Is this for
> real?
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415219676
>
> It was sold in a subsequent auction.
This is one of the many myths that somehow managed to arise around Conn's experiment of building their student line Pan American clarinets out of laminated wood billets. Another error often seen is that they are "made of rosewood with a beautiful grain." The so-called grain is merely the effect of cutting across the laminations when they made the clarinet.
Conn did not continue the experiment for very long as their lamination technology was not up to the task. Enough of these clarinets split between the layers that it was causing significant harm to Conn's reputation so they stopped making this version.
If it were not for the unusual beauty of these specimens, they would not be worth much as Pan Americans, in general, were not particularly good instruments. The ordinary Pan Americas will seldom bring any more than $30. These laminated ones are nice for display and as a piece of clarinet history but I wouldn't want to play one on any kind of regular basis. They do however have some value to people because of their beauty, history, and that they are somewhat uncommon. Typically I see them go for around $300 on eBay these days.
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Author: Todd W.
Date: 2001-04-13 00:25
Dee--
Even $300 is a little high unless someone really wants one of these; I've seen them go for $200 to $250. With this one, the sad thing (not for the seller) is he (or she) had it listed for $335 and received no bids. Then it was re-listed for $357 and sold--using eBay's Buy It Now feature--for $385.
Taxijazz does seem to have a knack for spinning tales and buying low and selling high.
Todd W.
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Author: Dee
Date: 2001-04-13 02:13
Todd W. wrote:
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> Dee--
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> Even $300 is a little high unless someone really wants one of
> these; I've seen them go for $200 to $250. With this one, the
> sad thing (not for the seller) is he (or she) had it listed for
> $335 and received no bids. Then it was re-listed for $357 and
> sold--using eBay's Buy It Now feature--for $385.
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> Taxijazz does seem to have a knack for spinning tales and
> buying low and selling high.
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> Todd W.
I've been watching them pretty closely and if they are in *good condition* and there are *good clear pictures posted*, they routinely break the $300 mark. Not all do but that does seem to be the pattern of recent months. However one must be cognizant of the psychology of auctions. Those that have minimum starting bids of $300 don't get any bids. Yet when the same seller lists it with a much lower starting bid (say under $100), they take off.
The ones that don't break $300 either have noticeable problems or have poor or non-existent photos. There's only been a couple of the nice ones that didn't reach this level.
Also the addition of the Buy It Now feature has affected how people respond in the auctions. Some figure it is worth going higher just so they know they are the guaranteed winner.
Personally, I wouldn't spend $300 on one myself even though they are quite beautiful and I would like to have one. But it doesn't surprise me that some people would. Actually I expect the prices to gradually rise for those specimens in good condition.
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Author: Willie
Date: 2001-04-13 04:04
If I rememmber right (and I may be wrong), wooden air screws were made mainly from laminated Ash, Elm and sometimes Birch. Oak was used during WW1, as the life expectancy of most props was only 4-5 landings due to constant nose overs on muddy fields and battle dammage. I don't recall ever seeing any rosewood in a prop though.
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