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Author: jan
Date: 2001-04-10 13:45
hi guys,
i think i know the answer to my own question...but i just need some reassurance. theres a piece that im playing...the key sig. is Bb, Eb. in one measure the E has a natural sign. in the next measure there is another E, do i continue to play natural or is it back to flat? i think the answer is flat? but it doesnt sound right. the E natural seems to sound better in this sequence of notes???
jan
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2001-04-10 13:50
Accidentals are only apply to the measure they are in, unless the note is tied to one in the next measure.
It is possible that there is a misprint in your music and that there should be another accidental in the next measure. If it is an ensemble piece, you can compare your music to the conductor's score to check.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-04-10 14:36
Jan -
What's the piece? Someone here is reasonably certain to have played it.
Ken Shaw
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Author: jan
Date: 2001-04-10 16:45
Ken...or anybody,
this is a piece by Mozart, K.408 arranged by my teacher for our clarinet choir. i am playing 2nd part. key is Bb, Eb
2 measures before the one in question is this:
low C (half note) followed by 4 8th notes,
E (natural sign),
C (3rd space),
B,
G
next measur is: low A (half note) followed by 4 8ths,
C,
G,
E (natural sign),
C
measure in question is exactly the same as 2 measures before:
low C (half note), followed by 4 8ths
E (but no natural sign),
C (3rd space),
B,
G
should the E in the measure in question be played flat or natural?
thanks
Jan
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Author: jo
Date: 2001-04-10 16:59
If your teacher arranged it, I would just ask him/her and see what they meant to have there... It could have easily been something that they just missed while transcribing it.
Best of luck!
jo
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Author: jan
Date: 2001-04-10 17:03
i know, but i dont want him to think i dont know what im doing cuz i probly should know this. was hoping i could solve it before it came to that.
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Author: Erica
Date: 2001-04-10 17:28
I wouldn't think your director would think any less of you for asking a question like that. Just ask if it is a mistake in the music or if it really is intended to be an Eb. Your director most likely knows you, and your level as a musician; I wouldn't hesitate to ask a question like that. If the music is wrong (and he doesn't know it) asking the question would be better than playing it as written and him thinking you're wrong.
Just my thoughts on the situation. <|:o)
Erica
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-04-10 20:01
Jan -
If it's a new arrangement, the note that sounds out of harmony is almost certainly a typographical error. Even the best copyists and arrangers make mistakes like this. Your teacher will be happy to have you catch it.
The way to do it is to come up to the podium at a break and say "This note sounds funny. Should it be an E natural or an Eb?"
If you want to check yourself, go to a music library and look at K. 408 the new Mozart Edition. However, I don't think that's necessary. Don't make a big deal out of it. Just ask politely. You'll get credit, not criticism.
The longer you play and the better you get, the more things like this you'll catch. If you point them out in a polite, non-confrontational way, you create trust and admiration between yourself and your teacher. Go for it.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: jan
Date: 2001-04-10 20:06
okay guys, i'll go for it!
and, thanks for the confidence boost
jan
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Author: Meredith
Date: 2001-04-11 00:09
I ask my conductor about notes I think sound bad all of the time. Sometimes they are misprints and sometimes it is just meant to sound dischordant (although I highly doubt the Mozart would sound dischordant). I arranged the Grieg Piano concerto No 1 orchestral parts for my brass band and made a few mistakes. I expected the occassional slip up as I had to do it in a very short period of time so your conductor will no doubt expect the same thing. Never be afraid to ask.
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Author: Steve Hartman
Date: 2001-04-11 02:06
Your conductor will especially appreciate it if you don't use valuable rehearsal time to ask the question, but rather check it yourself with the score before the rehearsal or during a break.
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Author: Jim
Date: 2001-04-11 03:57
If you check the score, remember that you will need to transpose.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-04-11 05:26
If the note as written does sound in bad cord with 1st clarinet etc, it is surely a misprint. No composers in Mozart era use such chords or any arrangers would not intend to do that. In that case, it may be better to point it out to your teacher 'after' playing correctly.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-04-11 05:27
If the note as written does sound in bad cord with 1st clarinet etc(you can easily check it by piano), it is surely a misprint. No composers in Mozart era use such chords or any arrangers would not intend to do that. In that case, it may be better to point it out to your teacher 'after' playing correctly.
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