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Author: Kanehira
Date: 2005-06-03 21:18
This is a random question, but does anyone know the instrumentation in Lincolnshire Posy, in terms of clarinets? Specifically, I'm wondering if an Eb clarinet part is scored and how important it is to the piece. (Of course the color would add to the sound, but if would make a real difference without an Eb clarinet)
Thank you
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Author: Bnatural
Date: 2005-06-03 23:09
I think it was in their, my band didn't have it and I didn't notice it
I know on a DVD from the army they have an Eb
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Author: Francesca
Date: 2005-06-04 00:26
As a general rule, Grainger loved utilizing the different tone colors available in the woodwind section. Lincolnshire is no exception. It has plenty of exposed woodwind parts, including a massive Eb duet with piccolo. The Bb clarinets are divided into 3 (possibly 4?) parts, with good players on Eb, alto, and bass absolutely necessary. The only other real addition to the woodwinds is English horn. An ensemble can perform the piece without the auxillary instruments, but it loses its authenticity.
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Author: Merlin
Date: 2005-06-04 10:40
Posy also utilizes soprano and bass saxophones in addition to the usual AATB, and contrabass clarinet & contrabassoon.
Francesca is correct about the Eb duet with picc, which is in canon with a Bb clarinet/bass clarinet pairing.
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Author: swkeess
Date: 2005-06-04 22:53
We just played Lincolnshire Posy last month with our community band and I must agree that all the harmony clarinets are important in this work. We don't have an E flat player at present, so the duet with piccolo was covered by a B flat clarinet transposition. I played bass clarinet throughout except for the last movement, where I covered the alto clarinet part. Our first alto saxophone brought in her soprano sax and switched back and forth throughout the piece. With the lush woodwind instrumentation that Grainger loved it would be best to play this piece with all the parts covered, but it is feasible to play without an E flat or alto clarinet (with transpositions in critical passages).
Susan K.
Susan Keess
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Author: ken
Date: 2005-06-05 01:00
Grainger composed "a single" version of the piece (all 6 mvts plus a "B" version of "Rufford Park Poachers") but in two arrangements (a) for band (b) for two pianos. There are also two later known arrangements i.e., "Lisbon" for WW Quartet and "The Lost Lady Found" for Chorus and String Orchestra. Both, were initially published in 1940 by Schirmer/Schott of London and with the copyright in Grainger's name. The S&S edition, (with condensed score only) is still available from Schirmer/Hal Leonard, re-printed by Kalmus/Masters.
Fennell (most popular) released his full score edition (in my opinion, un-inspiring) in 1987. This version, (and Kalmus reprint) were possible due to the failure of the Grainger estate renewing the copyright when coming due in 1968, and released the works into the public domain in the USA ("I think" they are still under copyright in Europe, Scandinavia and far East.) More, as Grainger was a U.S. citizen the work is not eligible for "restoration" under the GATT/TRIPS provision of the copyright law.
The clarinet instrumentation of the Fennell edition is:
Eb Sop Clar
1st Bb Clar
2nd Bb Clar
3rd Bb Clar
Eb Alto Clar
Bb Bass Clar
Eb Contra Alto Clar
There are also "cool" parts written for two Tubas and Bass Saxophone.
As for the role and importance of the eefer, the writing is peppered throughout the whole with valuable musical injection, however the Eb Clar shines sharing the predominating lead melody, as well as providing a beautiful and haunting counterpoint during the Intro and conclusion Recap in "Rufford Park Poachers". There's a quintet of melody, counter melody/crosstalk by the Picc, Eb Clar, Bassoon, Oboe and Bb Bass Clar (trumpet joins in). It is an absolute miraculous use of color and timbre. Enough to send chills down anyone's spine as the listener is catapulted headlong into a canvas of rolling meadows, swaying pussy willow and smell of freshly cut grass on a hot summer's day...
Here's a FREE link -- MP3 download of the entire work by the United States Air Force Band in Washington DC; off their "Songs of the Earth" CD.
You simply, WON'T find a finer recording and/or rendition and interpretation anywhere on the planet. Enjoy, we American taxpayers footed the bill. [Scroll down to middle of page for piece]. v/r Ken
http://www.usafband.com/recording_search.cfm?start=3&ensembleID=4&styleID=
Post Edited (2005-06-05 03:40)
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Author: Kanehira
Date: 2005-06-06 01:07
Wow thank you all... this is another random comment, but on the recording by the USAF band, it sounds like there is no Eb clarinet on the beginning of "Rufford Park Poachers," only an oboe. Am I just imagining things or does anyone know anything more about this?
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Author: ken
Date: 2005-06-07 02:08
Concentrate on the bassoon melody and you'll hear the Eb playing in unison, 3 octaves higher....
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Author: eeferboy82
Date: 2013-03-16 01:22
If the oboe is playing in the beginning of the recording you're listening to, it's version B. The Eb Clarinet version of the solo is in version A.
Version A - Bb Clarinet/Picc in octaves followed by Eb Clarinet/Bass Clarinet in octaves.
Version B - Alto Clarinet/Picc in octaves followed by Oboe/Basson in octaves.
There is also an Eb Clarinet solo part at the end of the movement, regardless of which version is played, though it is cued in the 1st Bb part.
There's also a part in the fourth movement that I definitely feel is missing something without an Eb clarinet. The flutes, picc, Bb1 and Eb clarinet have 16th note sextuplet runs that is pretty exposed. The Bb1 part has it but in a lower octave.
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