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Author: Shostakovich
Date: 2012-10-02 01:43
Hello,
I've recently learned that a clarinet player whom I respect greatly uses a German style MP (a thin table, and "black master" reeds) with a Boehm clarinet. He apparently credits his great tone to the set-up (of course being a very experienced professional musician also has something to do with it, no doubt). I'm wondering if you can tell me a little more anout them: Have any of you made use of these mouthpieces? Were there any notable differences in tone or tuning? If one was to try out a German mouthpiece, what brands or models do you recommend.
I look forward to hearing anything you know about the subject.
Post Edited (2012-10-02 04:13)
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Author: Caleb
Date: 2012-10-02 03:32
As i konw, Richard Stoltzman is using vanderon whirte master reed with mp that made by his teacher.
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Author: donald
Date: 2012-10-02 03:35
He had GREAT TONE when he played Vandoren, then he used a Zinner I had refaced, then he went through various Lomax/Smith etc mouthpieces, all the while winning auditions, playing concerti and making a GREAT TONE.
Over the years a number of "us" have tried to copy his set up- and it definitely can produce a good result (I gave it a week, another friend a month, JF i think lasted a year) but it doesn't instantly make us sound like the player you are refering to, once you've gone through the initial honeymoon period.
Any number of people will post here that the tenon sizes are different, the intonation shouldn't work etc. I have found German mouthpieces where this is the case, but had no trouble using Wurlitzer Reform Boehm mouthpieces. I don't know what this fellow is currently using, last thing i heard he was going to try the Legere mouthpiece/reed "easy play" combo that the Vienna section are promoting, but that info is 2nd hand so may not be accurate.
Btw- the best sounding mouthpiece i EVER played was a Wurlitzer German mouthpiece (hard rubber, 60s or early 70s vintage)... this had actually been faced to suit a French Morre style reed so that a Boehm player could switch to Oehler without having to change to German reeds, but was ridiculously out of tune on Boehm system clarinet. One register was in tune, the other 20c out on every note.
These days there are a few more options- at least one mouthpiece craftsman makes a German model with a french facing, but i don't know if this is to suit a German or French bore...
So, it's possible, it obviously works ok for at least two or three players i know... all whom sound good...
dn
btw- there are already lots of threads on this topic, do a search...
Post Edited (2012-10-02 03:38)
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Author: Shostakovich
Date: 2012-10-02 04:46
Very interesting, it may be something I'd like to try in the distant future but this was really just to satisfy my curiosity.
Donald: That was quick detective work! (I'd been expecting to speak with Americans or Europeans unfamiliar with the local talent). From this and previous comments of yours you seem extremely knowledgable about the business.
As for researching before making a thread (which I do always try to do) I couldn't find much in previous searches until I looked up "Wurlitzer" (and I didn't know the brand until reading your post).
Thanks for your help!
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2012-10-02 19:44
A colleague of mine, playing a Selmer 9, uses a Vandoren "german" mpc with a No 5 reed in order to make enough noise to be heard above a dixieland combo. He just slips a conventional ligature over the thread grooves.
Bob Phillips
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Author: Klarnetisto
Date: 2012-10-05 15:06
I have the direct opposite: French mouthpiece and barrel on an Oehler A clarinet (Clemens Wurlitzer)! And it works very well indeed!
Klarnetisto
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