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 Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: Franklin Liao 
Date:   2010-08-30 08:43

I want to know if there's any tuning program that would be nice to use for tuning up Clarinet, done in hertz, so that we can do pretty accurate measurement. It occurred to me that this might be a good thing to have as to get a metric of how good a horn is...

(My warm-up before comparing C clarinets would be a matchup between my CSG and a R S Symphonie. Will need suggestions about how to best conduct this exercise)

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2010-08-30 09:25

Have you got an iPhone? There is a rather good tuning app which measures in herzts. It's called Cleartune.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: Franklin Liao 
Date:   2010-08-30 09:29

@cigleris: No... cause I am one of those IT geeks that simply cannot reconcile with the Apple ecosystem...

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2010-08-30 09:36

There's "Tuner_E" - http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~tuner/tuner_e.html, scroll down to "Sound color analyzer and Tuner for shakuhachi".

--
Ben

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: Franklin Liao 
Date:   2010-08-30 10:21

Thank you! Quick question though. What notes should I pay particular attention to in tuning other than A4? My embouchure is not mature so I generally don't play in tune for anything below C5. (I firm up surprisingly after that point)

At least this is my observation after using that tuner program, as I needed a little effort to get A=440. I play at 436 generally. At D6/Eb6 and above I become less precise and starts to veer flat.



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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2010-08-30 10:42

Actually, tuning for "reference" purposes should be done blindly - one is playing, another one is writing down the results.

If you're doing it for improving your overall tuning, find the note that's most far off and work from there. Long, looong, loooooooooong notes should stay stable within a few cents and not get significantly higher or lower near the end.

Last but not least: Ditch the tuner as soon as you play in an ensemble. There you should use your ears and learn to adapt to the ensemble's tuning.

--
Ben

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-08-30 15:01

What do you hope to achieve with this that you wouldn't with a garden-variety battery-operated tuner that you stick in your pocket?

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: Franklin Liao 
Date:   2010-08-30 15:03

Only one thing. I haven't actually owned a battery operated tuner and I spend most of my time in front of a Computer for my work, so it's my first tuner if you will. This way I don't need to borrow one...



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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-08-30 15:28

Ah. I'd HIGHLY recommend getting a battery operated tuner, regardless. Very handy to be able to take with you. They run all of $20.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: BartHx 
Date:   2010-08-30 15:36

I have to agree with Ben. A tuning note is just a starting, reference point. As it turns out, if you play perfectly in tune, some notes will sound out of tune. That's why a piano has more than one string for each designated note. They are tuned differently. Once everyone agrees on a reference note, you start using your ears and adjust as necessary.

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2010-08-30 15:57

That's not why a piano has more than one string for each note. See https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Piano_acoustics

Sounding out of tune when you play perfectly in tune is the case because of the compromises inherent in different tuning systems. Equal temperament, which the tuner you'll get for $20 at the music store is calibrated to, uses equal ratios between all the notes. This allows easy modulation through any key, but comes at the expense of a slightly flat perfect fifth, a very sharp major third, and a flat minor third, among other things, in relation to the perfect ratios you'd see in a modulation-unfriendly but more "acoustically correct" system like just intonation.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Good computer tuning program? (measure in hertz)
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2010-09-01 23:05

Istrobosoft

Peterson Strobe Tuner

iTunes app



Only (that I know of). Just rubbing it in ;)

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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