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Author: timw
Date: 2009-03-29 16:03
I just got my Buffet R13 in the mail. It is from 1973. I am still checking it out. In playing it with my Korg tuning device (set at 440) , it indicates that I am flat on all but the highest notes . In fact, It is practically impossible for me to get the notes perfectly in line with the tuner, even with my lip. Assuming it not the turner, do I need to think about a new barrel?Any thoughts on this.
TW
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-03-29 16:06
What mouthpiece are you using?
I found out that different mouthpieces on the very same instrument can lower or raise your pitch by 20..30 cents easily.
(eg my Vito VSP, with a Fobes mouthpiece, sounds in-tune at A=440. With a Mitchell Lurie M3, I am in tune at A=442)
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Ben
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Author: timw
Date: 2009-03-29 16:18
I didn't realize that. I will try some other mouthpieces. I am currently using a John Pierce, and I also have a Portnoy 02 and the R13 came with a Vandoren 5RV. Also, I just compared the new barrel to my E-11, and the E-11's is clearly shorterI just tried it, and I was still flat, but not near as much.
The R13 arrived just yesterday, and I'm trying to figure out if this horn is okay. So far, there are some key issues as well, and my technician is on vacation.
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Author: timw
Date: 2009-03-29 17:01
I just charged the barrel and tried the 5RV vandoren- That did the trick! Thanks for the help. I'll continue to play with it.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2009-03-29 17:43
E-11's are pitched at 442, thus the shorter (64.5mm) barrels.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Ryder
Date: 2009-03-29 18:53
I think Buffet should tune E11's to 440. I know they tune them to 442 because younger players tend to play flat, but we could just have everyone else match that flatness (new word). The world revolves around us anyways. JUST KIDDING
NO instrument has perfect tuning, nor does any musician. Just do your best to adjust, try new mouthpieces and barrels if needed, but most importantly, know your instrument's tuning tendencies inside and out.
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Ryder Naymik
San Antonio, Texas
"We pracice the way we want to perform, that way when we perform it's just like we practiced"
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-03-29 19:09
Ryder wrote:
> I think Buffet should tune E11's to 440. I know they tune them
> to 442 because younger players tend to play flat, but we could
> just have everyone else match that flatness (new word). The
> world revolves around us anyways. JUST KIDDING
Not necessarily. Continental Europe mostly plays at A=442. Pulling out a bit is easy, but shoving in...?
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Ben
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Author: timw
Date: 2009-03-30 21:31
This could explain why I thought my clarinet was out of tune for a performance recording of "Urinetown". I played soprano and alto saxes, soprano and bass clarinets. On the DVD, the clarinet sounded out of tune , but the rest of the instruments did not. The conductor didn't say anything, nor did anyone else in all of the performances. It bothered me that it seemed out naturally but I couldn't figure out why. I did use an E-11, so would that help to explain it?
Looking for a way to redeem myself,
Tim W
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Author: Ryder
Date: 2009-03-31 05:13
Ben,
note the "JUST KIDDING" at the end of my comment. pulling out id not a problem, but when player become more advanced E11s don't seem to cut it tuning-wise. ALWAYS sharp in my experience.
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Ryder Naymik
San Antonio, Texas
"We pracice the way we want to perform, that way when we perform it's just like we practiced"
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Author: pewd
Date: 2009-03-31 05:35
so they should sell Ben one with a 64.5 mm barrel.
and sell me one with a 66mm barrel.
why the **** should i have to go to the parent of a 2nd or 3rd year student with a developing embouchure and tell them to spend more money on a longer barrel, or 13 series mouthpiece, or both.
the manufacturers need to wake up. where i live, we tune to 440. where ben lives, its 442.
Tim - you need to constantly work on tuning - each note - there is no such thing as a clarinet perfectly in tune - its a life long battle...
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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