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Author: Dan
Date: 2008-08-26 22:43
I've been looking at mouthpiece disinfectants and it seems that it's mouthwash in a spray bottle.
The few that list ingredients have alcohol as the first, followed by mint flavoring.
I'm wonder what other people use, if anything.
Thanks, Dan
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-08-26 23:01
DavidBlumberg wrote:
> jeez, I would touch that one!
Eww.
I was going to suggest H2SO4 plus a wad of dollars. But yours is better, hands down.
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Ben
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2008-08-26 23:10
He said you couldn't leave it in long or it made the mouthpiece soft.
btw - he was the one who was doing it (had one of the jobs of prepping the clarinets and saxes for the upcoming school rental season - was at one of the main offices too so not some crazy obscure managers decision).
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Author: hans
Date: 2008-08-27 00:24
Dan,
I have used diisobutylphenoxythoxyethyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride monohydrate for many years.
It's sold by Long & McQuade (my local music retailer) under the name Sterisol Germicide, claims to sanitize in one minute, and is supplied by Grover Musical Products, Inc./Trophy Music Co., Cleveland, OH 44113
It's unlikely to kill Mad Cow prions, which are apparently nearly indestructible, but anything strong enough to do that might ruin a mouthpiece.
Hans
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Author: alanporter
Date: 2008-08-27 00:47
If any scale in the mouthpiece, first dissolve it with white vinegar, then wash this out with water and dry it. Then disinfect with rubbing alcohol (70 percent isopropyl alcohol) for two minites. Dry it and then swab out with hydrogen peroxide for another two minutes. I only do all this if someone else has used the mouthpiece, otherwise, vinegar then soapy water.
tiaroa@shaw.ca
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Author: myshineyblackjoy
Date: 2008-08-27 02:15
white vinegar is a natural disifectant all by it's self. Have Had many Nail clients use it for toe fungus. .......
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2008-08-27 02:30
(Disclaimer - I sell a mouthpiece cleaner)
Best to use a 2% solution of a mild dishwashing soap, soft toothbrush, and running cool water. Most "sold" disinfectants all depend on concentration, contact time, and temperature to be effective. The active ingredient in vinegar is dilute acetic acid which is a poor bacterial killing agent. Most commercial brands either contain alcohol or quantanary ammonium compounds as the germacidal agent. These, plus hydrogen peroxide in large and continued doses are not good for hard rubber. Although not EPA registered, Doctor MP is an effective bacterial, fungal, and viral killing agent with the 15 min. contact time and is safe for hard rubber, but the soap and water and complete drying is also very effective. Since hard rubber is not porous it does not take much to sanitize a mouthpiece and much chemical overkill is heaped upon poor mouthpieces when a little soap and water works very well itself.
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod.com
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2008-08-27 13:51
I keep Sterisol spray (sold by Ferree's Tools and by a lot of music stores), but I agree that it's probably glorified mouthwash. It's handy for teachers and students or for a "clarinet-tasting session" where people pass instruments around and washing mouthpieces isn't practical, but bear in mind that none of these products will completely sterilize a mouthpiece, even with prolonged soaking--and they're anti-bacterials, which won't do a thing against viruses. In other words, if I thought somebody'd got Bird Flu or even a bad cold, I wouldn't swap mouthpieces at all. But the advantage to the mouthwash-type products is that they're safe to use without rinsing afterwards and they don't taste like whatever Tidy Bowl tastes like! (Ben, I second your "eww," and may I add, "Yuck!")
Lelia
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2008-08-27 15:00
Good comments, Lelia and others. I favor colorless [not white] vinegar, 5% HAc for a first treatment, and if a virus is anticipated, soap and cool water and perhaps a brief encounter with an H2O2 solution. But, Hans' [lengthy] chemical name has me puzzled. Can you give us the structural formula, please, Hans? Then I will ask my experienced pharmaceutical- analytical-chemist elder son to point out the active/disinfecting groups, hopefully without resort to mass-spec and/or liq-phase chromatography's help. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2008-08-27 15:54
(Disclaimer - I sell a mouthpiece cleaner)
diisobutylphenoxythoxyethyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride - as noted, one of the quaternary (denotes 4) ammonium compounds - two isobutyls, two dimethyls. There are several germacidal (not viracidal) compounds in this class used as disinfectants - contact time should be at least a minute at room temperature according to EPA specifications. Listerine contains 26% alcohol !!!
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod.com
Post Edited (2008-08-27 15:55)
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Author: mrn
Date: 2008-08-27 16:06
L. Omar Henderson wrote:
> Listerine contains 26% alcohol !!!
...which is probably why my friend uses it.  (whether it's a good idea or not is not a question I can answer)
Post Edited (2008-08-27 16:09)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2008-08-27 19:07
TKS. LOH, just trying to have a bit of "Chemical FUN". Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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