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 boiling reeds???
Author: Terry 
Date:   2002-11-17 02:17

hmm...i wonder waht would happen if i boiled my reeds and let them dry. someone shoudl try

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: corey 
Date:   2002-11-17 02:32

Wouldn't they warp? Just curious but who would want to do it and waste a reed? not me but hey if anyone is up to it then go ahead and see what happens who knows maybe it would maybe unplayable reeds play better?


--corey

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: ron b 
Date:   2002-11-17 06:34

If it doesn't work out for you that way, Terry, and it almost certainly will not, you should try the 'newer' and surprisingly (as yet) widely unrecognized crock pot treatment that's catching on in certain circles. It's way more efficient and far less messy than Sterno-heated avocado pits that the old folks used that, I'm told, made reed cane nearly indestructable. It was widely used by rattan furniture makers before it found its way into the woodwind player's community where it became an instant hit. How d'you think they got those big ol' lucious and penetrating dark sounds? They treated their reeds right... THAT'S HOW!!! Old Timers swore by 'the method'. Sadly, it was all but a forever lost art, due to the industrial revolution no doubt, until recently. Maybe you've overheard something about it, Terry. There are rumors circulating quietly that the reed makers are worried. That's not true, it's prompting them to improve their products. Keep up the good work though - posts like this will spur them on. Maybe we'll get ten out of the box playable ones yet :))) Then, as the old timer's secrets are gradually re-discovered and re-revealed to us, we can heat treat those favorite reeds to perfection in the privacy of our own kitchens and live happily ever after, leaving us more free time to persue other interests... (pause, catch breath) --
Anyone want to purchase a share in a toll bridge?

:)

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: Michael McC. 
Date:   2002-11-17 13:07

If you could keep them under the water level, it's worth a shot. It would probably help clean them, like hydrogen peroxide. I have boiled out mouthpieces before, ones I find in old cases at school to try them out. Give it a shot.

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: Clairgirl 
Date:   2002-11-17 14:01

"A reed is like a tea bag. You don't know how strong they are until you put them in hot water."

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: Bob 
Date:   2002-11-17 14:19

Why don't you just do it?

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2002-11-17 22:55

I just tried boiling my reed. Got the water up to boiling temp, then held the reed under with a spoon for two minutes. I'm letting it dry right now. At least it didn't crack or anything. We'll see how it plays and how long it lasts . . . . .

Alexi

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2002-11-18 08:43

You are not serious surely?

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: Roger Aldridge 
Date:   2002-11-18 16:05

Boiling reeds sounds to me like either a bad joke or snake oil. I just don't see how it can be a good thing for the reed cane.

I've gotten excellent results by simply following the reed preparation and break in steps recommended by Tom Alexander (www.superial.com) as well as rotating at least 5-7 broken in reeds in my reed case. That is, I'll play a particular reed one day. The next day I'll use the next reed in the case. And so on. Rotating reeds each day -- instead of playing one reed until it dies -- is definitely a good thing to do. It helps to extend the life of each reed.

By the way, the advice that Michael posted about boiling mouthpieces is plain WRONG. Never, never, never (!!!) put a hard rubber mouthpiece in hot water. It will warp it. If one does this to an old junk mouthpiece that's already in poor condition it's possible to not notice a difference in how it plays. But, if you do this to a well faced mouthpiece it won't be the same afterwards. I would never do this to any of my mouthpieces. There are safe ways to clean mouthpieces and reeds.

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: Won Kim 
Date:   2002-11-18 22:15

hahahahahahahahaha

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: ron b 
Date:   2002-11-19 03:24

Hi, Won Kim :)

(I saw your previous post above, too :)
Don't laugh too hard :(hahaha), Soupy might become unruly; just play something soft and sweet to soothe the savage reed ravagers.

How are you doing with your ensemble playing these days? Do you boil your sheet music, or do you just play hot notes?

:)))

 
 RE: boiling reeds???
Author: clockwiser 
Date:   2007-11-02 19:15

I just read the Oiling reed thread... apparantly oiling the reed prolongs it life.

What if you FRIED the reed? ...

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-11-02 19:27

In one of my weaker moments I actually tried to "temper" and dry my reeds by giving them a very quick shot in the microwave oven.

One word.....

crispy [wink]



...GBK

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2007-11-02 19:32

> crispy [wink]

The perfect TV snack for musicians...

--
Ben

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: pelo_ensortijado 
Date:   2007-11-02 19:35

the bassoonplayers DO boil their reeds.
i don't know really what for. but the bassoonist i share room with most of the days had this papers about how to make reeds. and when it comes to adjusting them, i read something about boiling, as some kind of last resort.
gonna check it out

brb.



 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: pelo_ensortijado 
Date:   2007-11-02 19:54

oh. here it is.
from the bassoon.com page

"If the reed is too hard: /.../ If the cane is very hard, you can as a last resort dip the whole reed (8) in boiling water for approx. 10 secs. "



 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: clockwiser 
Date:   2007-11-02 20:16

"If the reed is too hard: /.../ If the cane is very hard, you can as a last resort dip the whole reed (8) in boiling water for approx. 10 secs. "
then enjoy with your favourite dipping sauce....

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: John O'Janpa 
Date:   2007-11-02 21:51

If you boil a reed with the right chemicals added, you should be able to make paper, although the smell associated with paper plants leads me to believe that you should not try it at home.

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: donald 
Date:   2007-11-03 01:49

i soak my reeds in organic barley miso
the enzymes in the miso help the reed last longer and... wait for it... give me a DARKER sound!

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-11-03 05:15

when I started out in Junior High, I remember boiling my reeds to get rid of the taste (orange box ricos).

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: Sarah Elbaz 
Date:   2007-11-03 08:29

I know some Basson players who boil there reeds too.
When the reeds are very green I put them in boild water .
Sarah

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: Ed 
Date:   2007-11-03 13:15

Try this- 1 box on Vandorens, [GBK prefers Gonzalez], 2 quarts of water, 1 small onion-diced, 1 carrot-diced, 1 stalk celery, 1 bouquet garni, sprig of parsley, salt and pepper to taste.

Simmer for 45 minutes, season to taste.

(courtesy The Cuisine of Var- Pierre LaLouche, 1963)


Tune in next week for more reed cuisine- Deep Fried Reeds, Brining reeds, Pickled reeds, Salt-cured reeds, Reeds au jus and Paul Prudhommes famous Cajun Blackened Reeds for that New Orleans Sound!



Post Edited (2007-11-03 14:53)

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: claritoot26 
Date:   2007-11-03 14:13

I throw the old ones in a blender and use instead of jimmies on ice cream.

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-11-03 15:08

I suppose one could get fiber that way.

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: Ryan K 
Date:   2007-11-04 18:58

You could always tape a bunch of old reeds together and make a ping-pong paddle

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: armadillo 
Date:   2007-11-05 05:24

Great idea, I might boil my old clarinet, it is so far gone it might warp back into shape! :-D

buffet R13, VD M30, V12 #3, VD Klassik (perf. & reh)/Rovner leather(practice)

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2007-11-05 11:09

> Great idea, I might boil my old clarinet, it is so far gone it might warp back
> into shape! :-D

That's not a clarinet, that's a crumhorn, silly. [tongue]

--
Ben

 
 Re: boiling reeds???
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-11-05 11:13

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