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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2007-02-13 01:43
I am in the market for an inexpensive Eefer, I found the Gigliotti HE2 Eb Clarinet for $350 at 1 Stop Clarinet and Sax. Anyone had any experience with this instrument, and any suggestions on any other reliable Eb clarinet.
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-02-13 20:26
I too would like to know more about this instrument. The price is rather astoundingly affordable, which naturally sets off my internal alarm.
Anybody got the scoop? TIA! Chris
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2007-02-13 20:39
I did some digging through the archives and I found only references to the website, which gave it good reviews.
Austin
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-02-13 22:07
Hey Austin,
Thanks for the reply. I checked out the Gigliotti website (clarinetworld.com) but only found references to the usual suspects (mouthpieces, reeds, ligatures and barrels). Didn't really find anything with a search of the Clarinet BB about the horns themselves. Also checked the Klarinet archives and no luck. Can you point me to the reviews you found?
Much thanks,
Chris
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2007-02-13 23:32
Here are some links to reviews I've found:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=232736&t=232724
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=189803&t=189777
Here another link to a post about the Gigliotti Eefer:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=233340&t=233339
I also talked to a well respected repairman today who said that it is also worth it to look for an old two piece Buffet Eefer, which he holds in high regard.
Austin
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-02-14 00:14
Austin,
Much thanks!
Wow, a two piece eefer? Far out!
Chris
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2007-02-14 00:51
Apparently the two piece was the standard back in the day at some point, but unfortunately cost has overtaken quality and the one piece is now the standard.
Austin
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2007-02-14 05:13
I never said that all one pieces was low quality. What was explained to me by this repairman was that issues common among all Eefers that are one piece were not as problematic as two piece Eefers. For example, the intonation (a problem on every single instrument ever made), which within the realm of clarinets is more of an issue on Eb clarinets than Bb. I asked him why they stopped making two piece Eefers, and he said time and money. My comments were very generaized, and not only do I believe there are exceptions to this statement, but I believe there are many.
However, for the market that I am in, which is a working, inexpensive Eb clarinet this is an issue. The repairman suggested that I look for an old two piece Eb clarinet.
Austin
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-02-14 11:08
Considering the size, a one-piece body makes far more sense in terms of mechanical reliability. German ones can be made in 2-piece form as there's no linkages between the joints, but you're better off with a modern 1-piece Eb than an old 2-piece one.
I reckon you should look out for a used Vito Eb.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Tony Beck
Date: 2007-02-14 13:54
I'd agree that there is no problem with a one piece, other than you need a bigger chunk of wood to make it. With a 2 piece, the C#/G# is compromised, since it ought to be in the middle of the joint. With Eb intonation being the problem that it is anyway, a 2 piece body would have to be a little suspect. There have even been one piece Bb and As to get around the C# problem, mostly made early in the 20th century. If you are looking for a reasonable Eb, don't overlook Noblets. They are fairly common and occasionally appear at good prices. If possible, play before you buy as there seems to be a lot of variability in tone and intonation.
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-02-14 16:37
In Canadian dollars, no less! Great find!
Unfortunately, I need to score a bass first...
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Author: ajhogan
Date: 2007-02-14 18:50
Here's some information about the Gigliotti emailed to me by David Blumberg, which I was given permission to post on the board:
"Hey, I saw your posting on the Klarinet board about the Gigliotti Eb
Clarinet. I am quite doubtful that the clarinet is any good at all. After
Tony died (I was one of his long time students) his company was taken over
and some questionable products came out. That includes colored (blue, red,
etc) mouthpieces ..........
I suspect that this chinese made Clarinet is one of those questionable
quality products. His reeds are quite good and rival the top brands in
quality and sound, but I wouldn't touch that Clarinet if it would be used
for an intermediate to high level. It probably plays like a bad bundy. And
I'm absolutely not a fan of the hard rubber clarinets as I've found from
playing them that they don't hold a candle to a good wooden one. Different
feel, different tone."
Thanks for the other recomendations regarding the Vito and Noblet Eefers. I will look further into it.
Austin
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