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 "Woodwind" Robert Marcellus
Author: Bruno 
Date:   2006-07-07 21:50

Rooting through my clarinet shoebox today I discovered this mouthpiece. Has "Robert Marcellus" engraved on its body. Was he a Chicago player? Feels nice and heavy. Does anybody know anything about the history and/or parameters of these MP's; opening, length of the lay, chamber, baffle, etc.? Were they all the same? Looks like somebody (manufacturer?) did a little fine hand work inside the beak on the baffle. Beautiful symmetrical rails, tip, table etc. Reed suggestions? It seems to like an Olivieri #2, V.D. #3.
It has a nice little "bronze" plaque imbedded into the top of the body near the tenon; "Woodwind". I must have tried it in some clarinet store, liked it and bought it, then put it away in my shoe box. Heh!

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Author: C2thew 
Date:   2006-07-07 21:58

ebay value around 65-120 last i saw on an auction. Didn't know that they were replicas of Kaspar ciceros. Pardon stepping on some toes there.

Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau

Post Edited (2006-07-08 01:20)

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 Re: "Woodwind" Robert Marcellus
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-07-07 23:26

C2thew wrote:

> Haven't tried it, but some people say that the generic
> mouthpiece isn't as good as the custom that he makes.


[ PLEASE do not echo second hand, incorrect information.

If you do not know for certain, it would be better to let someone with the past knowledge respond to the question ...GBK ]

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 Re: "Woodwind" Robert Marcellus
Author: Gregory Smith 2017
Date:   2006-07-08 00:52

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1999/05/000729.txt

They were a machine-made copy of his own Kaspar Cicero (the Kaspar Cicero that he played from 1968 until he passed away in the 90's).

Gregory Smith

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 Re: "Woodwind" Robert Marcellus
Author: Bruno 
Date:   2006-07-08 03:52

Thanks for that link, Gregory. Since I submitted my original query I have found out that Rob't Marcellus was the first chair in the Cleveland Symphony (not Chicago as I had erroneously guessed).
Further inspection revealed "M 13" on the body, = 1.13; quite a wide opening, acc. to your article.

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 Re: "Woodwind" Robert Marcellus
Author: Gregory Smith 2017
Date:   2006-07-08 12:21

After the initial project was completed between Marcellus and Aiello, they discussed the possibility of making a slightly closer facing, especially for those playing double lip. They came up with the 1.08 tip at Marcellus' suggestion, hence the 08 designation.

By the way, the 1.13 tip was the actual measurement of his own mouthpiece but as he said, it did not feel as open as most 13's. His ideal was to find a Kaspar that, if stamped 13 felt more as an 11, and if an 11, felt more like a 13. (There were relatively few that were stamped 12 but that tip opening didn't seem to work as well for some reason with the blank that Kaspar finished off from it's relatively raw form.)

Gregory Smith

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 Re: "Woodwind" Robert Marcellus
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2006-07-09 13:01

The Marcellus Woodwind mouthpiece is listed in the Weiner catalog, http://www7.mailordercentral.com/frederichweinerinc/prodinfo.asp?number=MM1, and is presumably still made. Weiner gets $77 for it, brand new, so I wouldn't pay anything near that price on eBay.

I tried one several years ago and thought it was one of the better machine-made mouthpieces.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: "Woodwind" Robert Marcellus
Author: Bruno 
Date:   2006-07-09 18:13

I don't know how EBay got into this thread. Why does a monetary value have to be placed on everything?
I have no intention of selling this mouthpiece. I started the thread in order to learn something and share my enthusiasm - that's it.
EBay - ugh! Lemme outta here!

b/



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