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Author: claclaws
Date: 2005-01-06 08:06
" Clarinet (sound) has the dignity of an aristocrat's daughter."
I picked the above saying somewhere during websurfing. Well, it lingers very much on my mind. (If that doesn't happen to you, then perhaps 'lost in translation..?' sorry...)
Have you heard any good metaphoric description about clarinet? (including, not exhaustively, sound, shape, specific tunes for clarinet..)
Lucy Lee Jang
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Author: Mike Clarinet
Date: 2005-01-06 08:54
A conductor friend of mine called Eb clarinet a 'swine-pipe'. I don't know if this is because it is a swine to play in tune, sounds like a pig squealing, or is only fit for herding pigs! (His opinions, not mine so please don't flame me if you are an eeferophile..)
Post Edited (2005-01-06 12:22)
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-01-06 11:36
"... yonder clarinet tones unto the surely wench, verily"
- Robert Morely, "Phaedon and Clarilinda," Act V, Scene iii
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Author: Pappy
Date: 2005-01-06 14:33
larryb wrote:
> "... surely wench,"
How....um....descriptive.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-01-06 14:38
Does calling a clarinet a "black liquorice stick" count?
US Army Japan Band
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Author: William
Date: 2005-01-06 14:50
My saxophone friends often refer to their clarinet doubles as the "agony stick".
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-06 15:26
Isn't that a Surly Wench, surely all men recognise an appealing wench when we see one. Be that as it may, I have a very small book entitled "Music Lovers" "Quotations from the world of music" in which there is the well-known "Clarinet [n] An instrument of torture, operated by a person with cotton in his/her ears. There are two instruments worse than a clarinet, - 2 clarinets !" {Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary, 1906 [?copyright acknowledgement??]. Other than the oboe's "Ill Wind" quote, there is one by a Charlie Parker, "Music is your own experience, your thots, your wisdom. If you dont live ir, it wont come out of your horn" {I've heard of him somewhere, just joking of course !} . Have more goodies, will post from time to time.
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-01-06 15:59
No, Morely clearly meant "surely wench" when he wrote that line - the grand irony of the statement is underlined by the closing "verily," as well as Phaedon's shocking action in Act VII, scene ix.
doesn't anyone understand Elizabethan theater anymore?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-01-06 16:15
I am certain the great music scholar Curt Sachs had a sense of humor, although in this case it may have been unintentional -
"The origin of the clarinet is unknown. It has been found in primitive civilizations, but only in recent layers, and the question of whether it migrated from a lower to a higher civilization, or from a higher to a lower one, is not yet decided."
Curt Sachs: The History of Musical Instruments (1940), page 91 ...GBK
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-06 16:20
TKS, Larry - No, one of the good things we engrs miss out on. I did think about a "surely" [no question about it] wench tho ! {Not that old !] Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: CPW
Date: 2005-01-06 16:53
The clarinet was in use by Homo neanderthalis, fashioned as they migrated into southern France via the Var, hence their extinction.
Recenct claims of a more modern form were found in campsites of
Homo legerious, and supposedly in South America in layers of
zondocience sedementary rock.
ref:
Shapiro and Kloq, Journal of Paleneontology, 1997, vol 20 pp 122-128.
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-01-06 17:37
Goethe called it:
"der Teufelslautenholzstangemitdemverdammtenrohrblattding"
in Faust III
rhymes with "Schmetterling"
Post Edited (2005-01-07 11:32)
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-01-06 17:48
I read a Penthouse Forum letter once that described... (ahem)... "something" as "long as a clarinet."
But I guess that's more simile than metaphor.
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Post Edited (2005-01-06 17:51)
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2005-01-06 18:02
Those of us who understand, studied and performed Elizabethan Theatre are too old to remember much of it.
Alas, poor Yorick--or whatever his name was.
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-01-06 18:25
Ralph G -
you remind me of Fellini's film "Orchestra Rehearsal," in which the clarinetist describes his instrument as the "prick of the orchestra" (at least that's what the subtitles say). I hope it's OK to use that benign language on this BBoard. If not, we've really reached a sad state of affairs.
(This is actually the only true posting that I've contributed to this discussion.)
After a quick search of the woodwind.org and klarinet databases, I see that this is not the first time I've provided this information. How pathetic.
Post Edited (2005-01-06 18:31)
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Author: Jimmy Zhong
Date: 2005-01-06 20:55
I don't know about the clarinet, but the local term for the bassoon is the "farting bedpost"
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2005-01-06 21:50
Jimmy said Bassoon was farting bedpost
Peter Schickle calls it the singing stovepipe.
In re: the Penthouse forum description of the clarinet above , perhaps it is the most throbbing member of the ensemble.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2005-01-06 22:01
Not really a metaphor....but it makes me laugh.
'Playing the clarinet is like looking after a box of newborn puppies'
Trust me...it is, do I need to elaborate?
lol
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Author: Iacuras
Date: 2005-01-06 23:06
larryb said:
>Goethe called it:
>"der Teufelslautenholzstangemitdemverdammtenrohrblattding
Translates roughly to: "the devil sound wood bar with the condemning tubing sheet thing"
(edited with better translation)
Steve
"If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you, you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon."
"If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly."
Post Edited (2005-01-06 23:18)
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Author: claclaws
Date: 2005-01-07 02:01
Thank you , Iacuras, I was wondering what that LONG German word meant..
Lucy Lee Jang
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Author: Frodo
Date: 2005-01-07 02:27
Sure I know about Elizabethan Theatre. It's the cinema where Queen Elizabeth goes to! (har, har, har! just kidding)
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Author: Markus Wenninger
Date: 2005-01-07 06:46
Sorry, but with
"der Teufelslautenholzstangemitdemverdammtenrohrblattding" it´s rather
" the devil´s loud/lute wood pole/stick with the damned reed thing".
But "Faust III" is the sole sensible thing this Goethe person ever wrote.
Markus
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-01-07 11:34
amazing how strident the different schools of Goethe intepretation can be - let's keep the debate polite and respectful, please
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-07 13:49
TKS, Marcus/Larry, you got beyond my German very quickly. I'm still waiting for someone to ask about the Bird, he must have been off drugs to make that much sense, bet it didn' hurt his playing?? !!. OK? MC/GBK Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Squirrel
Date: 2005-01-08 13:36
I quite liked one of the opening comments on the clarinet node of www.everything2.com (Don't go there if you don't want to spend hours and hours wandering around it): "The clarinet family much resembles the Von Trapp family in organization and range, as well as sheer size"
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Author: Amateur Artist
Date: 2005-01-08 17:11
Well I don't know about clarinet but the trombone has a nickname i don't think i'm allowed to say here. Think about it.
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