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Author: 3dogmom 
Date:   2004-12-14 23:34

Do any of you fine folks know of a board, similar to this one (but of course, not as wonderful) where I could get a question answered about a trumpet problem? A student seems to be having a mouthpiece allergy, don't know what to do besides randomly switching mouthpieces.
Thanks - Sue

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: dummer musiker 
Date:   2004-12-14 23:45

How about a bassoon forum similar to this one?!

"There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats."

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2004-12-15 00:16

dummer musiker wrote:

> How about a bassoon forum similar to this one?!

As soon as someone with a proven track record offers to moderate ... that's how the oboe forum started.

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: naftule 
Date:   2004-12-15 00:32

You might try www.trumpetherald.com. They seem to have a lot of good information there, in a great many categories. They're a lot less civilized there than we are on this board, though, so be prepared! :)



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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: lycfmtkl 
Date:   2004-12-15 00:37

there are forums for many types of wind instrumnets,including trumpet and basson at the following web site;

www.8notes.com



Post Edited (2004-12-15 00:39)

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: ohsuzan 
Date:   2004-12-15 02:48

As far as bassoon lists go, you could join the International Double Reed Society (IDRS) and get on their mailing list and bulletin boards. The lists are very active, and come close to this one for being populated with knowledgeable, helpful, interesting people.

Google IDRS for the link.

Susan

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: dummer musiker 
Date:   2004-12-15 02:50

Thanks for the info!

"There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats."

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: GEM 
Date:   2004-12-15 04:36

NAFTULE WROTE:
"They're a lot less civilized there than we are on this board"

Well, of course they are - trumpet billboards have more brass!

GEM

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: ron b 
Date:   2004-12-15 04:50

I think the original question is about possible allergy to a trumpet mouthpiece.

If the problem is truly an allergic reaction to the mouthpiece proper, I believe you should be consulting an allergist or dermatologist -- not trumpet players. And, especially not reed instrument players unless the player happens to be a physician.

Personal experience prompts me to mention that if the plating is worn through to brass, even a tiny place where the lips might come into contact with it, you're likely to have a reaction to the brass. This is not uncommon because brass can be quite irritating... ask any machinist. The remedy to that condition is to have the mouthpiece re-plated or purchase a new mouthpiece. If that turns out to be the problem, you should then ask brass players where they have their mouthpieces re-plated.


- r[cool]n b -

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2004-12-15 14:15

Here are a few sites that I collected for my trumpet-playing nephew a couple of years ago. There are undoubtedly many more. The last one is a fascinating autobiography by the famous player Herbert L. Clarke.

http://www.trumpetguild.org/
http://www.angelfire.com/music2/thecornetcompendium/
http://www.trumpetstudio.com/home.html
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~bgoff/tpt-tips/tips.html
http://abel.hive.no/oj/musikk/trompet/clarke/clarke-series.html

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: Todd W. 
Date:   2004-12-15 19:23

3dogmom --

I agree with ron b about consulting a dermatologist, and the possible need to replate the mouthpiece. However, if it turns out to be a general allergy to metal (not just brass), a company, Kelly, makes trumpet mouthpieces out of Lexan (plastic). A search for "lexan trumpet mouthpieces" (without the quotes) on google will give you more information.

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: 3dogmom 
Date:   2004-12-16 00:19

Thanks for all of your input. This is a fifth grade student with a brand new trumpet and mouthpiece. No chance of plating wearing off.

I did check out "trumpet herald" and was given similar suggestions, particularly with regard to plastic. The parent needs to consult a physician, certainly, should the problem continue.
Sue

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 Re: trumpet bulletin board
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2004-12-16 14:25

Young players seldom clean their mouthpieces. Drop it in soapy water overnight. Then clean the inside of the shank with a small bottle brush and scrub the outside plus the rim and the cup with a toothbrush and baking soda or toothpaste.

If the mouthpiece is nickel-plated, or has any nickel in the alloy, this is a likely cause of allergy. Almost everyone is sensitive to nickel, particularly in the presence of pressure and humidity.

My father, who was a dermatologist, used the following test: tape a nickel coin to the inside of your upper arm and leave it in place for 2 or 3 days. Then take it off, wait 5 minutes and look for a white ring around a reddened impression of the coin. If it's there, you are allergic to nickel. As anyone who has pierced ears and had a reaction to earrings with nickel-plated posts knows, the reaction gets worse with time, and the only remedy is to switch to earring with gold-plated posts.

See also http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1997/09/000112.txt
http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1997/08/001332.txt

The remedy, then, is to have at least the mouthpiece rim plated with silver or gold. The amount of precious metal is tiny, so the materials cost is minimal, and with a small item like a mouthpiece, the plating charge is not excessive.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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