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 Thinking of selling a CD
Author: contragirl 
Date:   2004-05-18 05:59

Well, our clarinet choir concert went well! If anyone remembers, I started a clarinet choir at my college this semester. We recorded the concert, and we made a CD.

So far, I have only sold it to fellow clarinet choir ppl and friends of mine, for a nice price of $5 to cover cost of materials. My question is, if I tried to sell it to another intimate group (say on the classified pages on this BB), would I get in any trouble with copyright issues?

It's our group performing, recorded by a friend. And it obviously wouldn't be commerically sold in bulk or anything. For our wind ensemble, they record the concerts and sell them to the band members. So it's been done.

Just wondering.

Thanks,
Contragirl

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2004-05-18 06:46

What were you playing?

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: contragirl 
Date:   2004-05-18 06:52

The quartet played Piazzolla, then choir played Massanet's Angelus, Nelhybel's Chorale and Danza, Londonderry Air, and Italian in Algiers. :)

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: msloss 
Date:   2004-05-18 13:05

Contra, in a word, yes. If you are making recordings and "selling" them to your colleagues for the cost of the materials, you don't really have any issues. As soon as you start peddling the CDs to the public, no matter how intimate the group, you need to pay royalties. If you go to the Harry Fox website, there is information on how to do limited-release licensing. They now understand there is a lot of this going on and there is a simplified and relatively inexpensive process for doing short run CDs.

Mark Sloss
Northbranch Records LLC

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2004-05-18 15:45

Mark: Thanks for that information, which should be helpful to many. As you say, there is a lot of this going on, and I do believe with simplified reporting and payment, most would prefer to operate within the law.

Regards,
John

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: Karel 
Date:   2004-05-20 09:50

Copyright only runs for 50 years as far as I know, although a new edition or arrangement of an old composition gives the copyright a new lease of life.

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2004-05-20 12:57

Karel wrote:

> Copyright only runs for 50 years as far as I know

In Australia that seems to be the case at the moment. Other countries vary, most having terms now far in excess of 50 years.

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2004-05-20 16:06

In the U.S.:

Pre-1923 = public domain
Pre-1978 = 95 years from publication (I've got you, babe!)
1978 on = 70 years after the author dies

(data from http://www.legal-database.com/copyright-length.htm)

Very upsetting to postmodernist composers.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2004-05-20 16:13

EEBaum wrote:

> Pre-1978 = 95 years from publication (I've got you, babe!)

More complicated than that ... this applies only if the copyright was renewed (copyrights had to be renewed after a specified time during previous incarnations of the law - which I personally think was a good idea, but ...). One complication that has already occurred - a copyright was renewed back in the 30s but the renewal was a few days late, which ended up making all the subsequent renewals and extensions void, thus surprising the current non-"copyright holder".

Oops.

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 Re: Thinking of selling a CD
Author: diz 
Date:   2004-05-20 23:03

50 years? (sort of correct) it's 50 years after the death of the author/composer/lyricist.

For a definitive answer to copyright in an Australian environment please refer to this website

http://www.copyright.org.au

Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.

Post Edited (2004-05-20 23:10)

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