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Author: john gibson
Date: 2003-11-22 02:19
Any thoughts? I've a '68 R-13....'79 Boosey 2-20...40's SILVER KING....and a Leblanc LL serial # 41xxx which I've not been able yet to determine the year due to lack of time. These horns are all exceptional and having spent time getting the right "set up" (MPC, LIG, REED STRENGTH, ETC.) are all great players. So what's the dif between old and new horns? Should I sell them and get ONE new clarinet? Thoughts?
John Gibson
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2003-11-22 02:34
Don't think I'm pokin' at you here, but here's what I read . . . Quote:
These horns are all exceptional and having spent time getting the right "set up" (MPC, LIG, REED STRENGTH, ETC.) are all great players. Then later . . . Quote:
Should I sell them and get ONE new clarinet? I just don't see the logic. If they are great players, why would you want to get rid of them?
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Duane
Date: 2003-11-22 03:10
I agree with exfalexi. I had a new Buffet and sold it to buy a fully restored Selmer Centertone from the fifties. And now that it is all set up I will never get rid of it.
Duane
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Author: Fred
Date: 2003-11-22 03:27
You have a stable of very different clarinets. Fun . . . isn't it?
The 68 R13 should be capable of having a marvelous rich sound that made the R13 famous. The 2-20 should be a larger bore - maybe like the LL - but with a different feel. And the Silver King - wow! What a player!
Of course, if the idea of sitting at home pondering over whether your new grenadilla is going to crack sounds appealing, by all means sell your tried and true players and give the dice a roll. Careful though . . . don't let the dice land in the cracks.
Seriously, if I was going to make any changes to your stable, I might consider selling the LL and the 2-20 and buying a classic Selmer like a Centered Tone or a Series 9. I just bought a Centered Tone and am really enjoying it.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2003-11-22 04:11
I've been thinking about it. You might be suffering from that disease which makes us ALL wonder if there's something "better" out there. Like those people who spend eternity searching for a better mouthpiece, or the best brand of reed, etc.
If you were planning on buying a new clarinet, I would recommend that you do NOT sell your best clarinets, but rather come up with the money in other ways. Even if it means taking out a personal loan, I would rather do that than sell what works and take a shot in the dark. Then you can buy the clarinet, and test it, and see if it was worth it or not.
If it turns out that it was worth it and it is better than what you have now, you can then sell what you have now to pay off/offset what you paid for the new one. If not, at least you can return the new clarinet and you STILL have all your old ones and aren't left wishing you didn't sell them. Also, all you would have paid would be a small amount in interest. Small price to pay for discovering that you COULD'VE made a huge mistake.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Rev. Avery
Date: 2003-11-22 10:25
Nice to know about the Center Toned Selmer. I read about it but wasn't sure if it was really good. Thanks.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2003-11-22 10:31
Hi John,
I have owned only one new clarinet in my life. My stable currently includes a Series 9, a 9*, a Leblanc L200, a Leblanc Dynamic 2, and a Buffet Academy (R-13). All are classic and all are great players although the L 200 is a little touchy on the reed selection. Among the 6, there are only two notes that are a little problematic but I know how to humor them when needed. The total price for all of these beauties is the price of a new R 13.
My wife, not a musician but possessing of one of the most intuituve minds around, says "never sell them, try to buy more." My children call me "one of the best bargain hunters around."
I think used clarinets are the way to have excellent value and as well as outstanding performance all at the same time. It is kind of the Warren Buffett approach to clarinet ownership. There are some excellent bargins out there.
HRL
PS I forgot that I also have a Bundy Mazzeo for any severe outdoor jobs and a 1930s Selmer waiting for an overhaul. I have owned several Buffet Master Models in my day and they are terrific values (although all do not play equally well).
Post Edited (2003-11-25 02:12)
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2003-11-22 18:30
Thanks for the input......kind of what I thought.....if I own good horns...why look for something else? the ones I have are great....
John
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Author: Lon Roach
Date: 2003-11-23 23:48
John... If it's any help on the age of the LL I have a LL that was purchased new in the spring of 1964. I was 17 years old and got to talk personally to Vito Pascucci on the phone the day we ordered it. It's serial number is 21555. Good luck.
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Author: Henry
Date: 2003-11-24 00:40
John: According to my information, collected from E-bay and Leblanc data, your LL was made in 1982 +/- 1 year. That means it's almost brand new! But if you want to make sure, contact Leblanc. They'll tell you.
My own LL has a SN of 23xxx and, like Lon's, dates from 1964.
Henry
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Author: wyatt
Date: 2003-11-24 00:49
i had a friend that had a wife that worked, but he decided to try out a new one. he is now on number 5 and is still thinking of number one.
keep the one that works.
peace.ˇ
bob gardner}ÜJ
Post Edited (2003-11-24 00:50)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2003-11-24 15:45
John -
Getting rid of instruments is pure fantasy. After all, one day you might need the very one you let go.
Once you've been bitten by the collecting bug, you might as well forget about trading, unless, of course, you get two for one.
I'm even tempted occasionally when one of the flourescent green Chinese objects comes up on eBay, since that was my favorite color when I was 6 years old, and if one of the clear Buffets came up at a reasonable price, I'd grab it in a heartbeat, to play with a crystal mouthpiece, a clear Luyben ligature and a Legere reed for the all-transparent look.
NOBODY else gets my toys.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2003-11-24 16:54
Vunderbahr, Ken, I have the "disease" also, its has spread to the midwest and to CA also. I'm still looking for a Christensen cl and a Paladino oboe, all I have are their patents!! Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2003-11-24 20:37
You guys are all great and give the best advice. Thanks.
John Gibson
PS....Bob Gardner.....I've not had five, but do still think of number one.
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