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Author: leonardA
Date: 2003-10-02 03:39
I had a crack repaired in the upper joint of my Leblanc Noblet and cosmetically it was not a good job. I was wondering if I could find a corresponding upper joint on another Nobet if I could replace my joint with the other one. Would it be compatible? Would it affect the tone or anyting else?
Leonard
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2003-10-02 05:37
Improving the cosmetics rather than replacing the joint is likely the better way to go, presuming your repair was technically satisfactory.
If you have two main joints with close serial numbers, they will likely work well together. But to find a spare UJ, its LJ would have to be no good. Body cracks are much more common in UJs. But LJs occasionally have very bad bell tenon damage, although not usually bad enough to warrant scrapping the LJ.
Regards and good luck,
John
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Author: William
Date: 2003-10-02 15:06
The upper joint relacement will never play like the original. And most often, it will not play as well, even though it may be of the same model series. If your repaired UJ plays well, then your best solution is to redo the cosmetics and keep it.
If it were me, I would ignor the cosmetics and continue the enjoyment of playing. From a distance, the only importance is how it sounds--not how it looks.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2003-10-02 23:11
"The upper joint relacement will never play like the original."
What grounds do you have for saying that, and so dogmatically?
And how come you write "never", and immediately follow that up with "And most often..."?
Confused.
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Author: cujo
Date: 2003-10-03 02:23
Having the same model, bore, and substance a new top joint may play play very similar or possibly so close to original you may never notice the difference. A "fixed" joint that had been cracked may sound even different than originally as material have moved and shifted.
And of course if is was unsatisfactorily repaired take it back or to someone else. If a repairperson does not have the skills to attempt a job it should not have been done. A repairperson must know thier limits on work. Crack filling is fairly easy if you know how and have experience and proper training.
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Author: Fred
Date: 2003-10-03 02:58
One avenue that has not been discussed here is the possibility of replacing the instrument entirely. You may not want to for a variety of legitimate reasons: can't afford to do it; sentimental value; etc.
However, some very nice clarinets of that general quality (Noblets, Signets, etc.) come available fairly frequently at bargain prices. So do some more modern counterparts (Buffet E11's, YCL-34's, etc.) While you might "get lucky" and mismatch your joints without a detrimental effect, you will face another problem down the road. When it comes time to overhaul - even repad - the clarinet, the work may well cost more than you could sell the clarinet for. A clarinet with mismatched joints is an albatross on the market - with the possible exception of a documented replacement by the manufacturer with a fully compatible new joint. So you could easily put $200 into an overhaul and get less than $100 for it on the market. Of course, that doesn't matter if you don't care about its' resale value.
Just another way of looking at it . . .
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Author: ron b
Date: 2003-10-03 05:25
Just curious, Leonard, about why the repaired crack was not good. I've re-worked some 'bad' fixes so that they were barely detectable through a strong magnifying glass. If the crack is all the way through to the bore and it can't be stabilized, it may be a lost cause. But a cosmetically nice job just takes some additional time. It's hard to picture, from your description, how severe yours is now. Was it pinned or was it banded?
My meager experience with replacement joints and parts (from the same manufacturer of course) has been pretty good. If the dimensions are the same as the old one and the material is the same as the old one... well?
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