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 Tremolo fingering
Author: CJB 
Date:   2003-06-27 12:31

Has anyone got any suggestions for a tremolo fingering between clarion E and G#. Its on an Eb part - using normal E and lifting LH 3rd finger works for a bit but I'm having difficulty maintaining the pitch as I get louder. I have about 6 bars of this with a crescendo.

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 Re: Tremolo fingering
Author: William 
Date:   2003-06-27 14:49

That is the only possible fingering I am familiar with for this awkward passage. Pitch is always a problem with the G# alternate, however, the pitch of the crescendo should be more controlable if your embouchure is properly set. When playing ppp, you must relax your bite to avoid causing the pitch go drastically sharp--sometimes, almost to the point of double lip only. Then, as you crescendo, gradually tighten to maintain the integrety of the pitch so that it doesn't seem to go flat, but rather remains constant. Occassional practice of <> on long tones with a tuner is is very helpful in learning this skill.

Ultimately, you may learn to tune your instrument to play in tune at the F level, and then learn to relax your embouchure to maintain that level during the softer dynamics. Good luck!!

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 Re: Tremolo fingering
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2003-06-27 15:11

CJB,

Is this an orchestral transcription to a band arrangement? We ran into a lot of these type tremolos last year when the CB I play in did Universal Judgment. Probably easy on a violin but on a calrinet, pretty tough.

HRL

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 Re: Tremolo fingering
Author: CJB 
Date:   2003-06-27 15:37

Its in an original band piece - called Divertimento, can't remember the composer but it occurs in both the 1st and last movements. It is really annoying me as I can maintain the pitch happily on either note with the alternative fingering above, but struggle when alternating. I haven't played the part with the band yet I'm hoping that when my ear has got something to latch onto I won't descend quite as dramatically as when I was trying to work the part up last night.

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 Re: Tremolo fingering
Author: ken 
Date:   2003-06-27 15:39

A couple of suggestions:

1) Tremolos can and should be played at tempo (unless directed), otherwise they become trills. If you're going too fast to begin with bring it back to tempo and see if the left ring finger concoction pulls it off ... even better if it's an open tempo or at a fermata. As for the flat and stuffy G#, not much you can do about note quality and consistency. If it was me, I would "establish pitch" on the G# bringing it up and not worry about the E natural being a little sharp. The E natural is a legitimate note/fingering and already speaks well, the G# contortion is the mutant and needs the adjustment.


2) Try bracing your right pinkie down on the C#/F# lower right cluster key (keeping it there) and attempt the passage as full value notes using standard fingerings. If the tempo isn't beyond your technique the pinkie will strengthen your middle/index fingers on the E natural, cut down extraneous and debilitating movement and aid in accuracy on the trade off between the left pinkie G#. v/r Ken



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 Re: Tremolo fingering
Author: ken 
Date:   2003-06-27 15:42

yes...99.5% sure it's the Persichetti, "Divertimento for Band".

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 Re: Tremolo fingering
Author: CJB 
Date:   2003-06-29 11:40

It's Roger Cichy's Divertimento for wind brass and percussion. My technique doesn't allow for the normal fingerings to be used on demis at crotchet = 92 but discovered that the pitch problem does go away when playing it within the group.

Thanks for your advise.

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 Re: Tremolo fingering
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2003-06-29 17:02

CJB, add the R pinky Ab/Eb key as you're getting louder. This makes the G# more stabil. Meet the pitch with your embouchure if the E is getting sharper.

Alphie

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