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Author: Neil Teitelbaum
Date: 1999-09-25 03:28
Has anyone ever heard of an Buffet Aparis ?
Just purchased one from the 40's and would like to know
anything I can find out about this series? if in fact it is a series?
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Author: Dee
Date: 1999-09-25 03:30
A Paris is merely French for "from Paris". Basically it means that it was manufactured there.
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Author: Neil Teitelbaum
Date: 1999-09-25 03:34
Yes, "at Paris" would translate to @paris, however I'm trying to ascertain whether this 1940's Buffet with no other markings is comparable to an R13 or ??
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Author: Neil Teitelbaum
Date: 1999-09-25 03:38
The clarinet came in a leather case with a heavy cloth overcover; the inside of the case is wine coloured velvet with a ribbon over it saying "the sweetest clarinet ever made" Marking on the clarinet itself Buffet Crampon AParis.
Any info on the history of this instrument would be appreciated
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Author: Sherwood W. Franklin
Date: 1999-09-25 04:46
Your description of the case is identical to my Buffet case except for the color. Mine is amedium blue velour. My case (and Buffet clarinet) was purchased new in early 1941. The clarinet was made around 1937-8. There should be a serial number on the two major pieces.
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Author: Albert
Date: 1999-09-25 06:23
The R13 was manufactured sometime during the fifties, so it's could only be comparable. How does it play?
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Author: Neil Teitelbaum
Date: 1999-09-25 10:49
Sherwood, I put a photo of if on my site which I though may help identify what it is:
http://24.114.32.245/clar01.jpg
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Author: Sherwood W. Franklin
Date: 1999-09-25 16:30
Neil, Please send me your Email address. I will contact you there. My Email address is WesGoFrank@aol.com.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 1999-09-25 17:30
Neil and others - As I mentioned in an EM, prob the best Buffet history reference among the many good books on cl's is Lee Gibson's "Clarinet Acoustics",[Amazon], will read up a bit in spare time and post interesting detail. Also, Mark C, can you post Langwill's Buffet info!!? Don
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Author: Dee
Date: 1999-09-25 17:59
It is probable that this was a professional quality instrument in its day and should still be a nice instrument to play if it has been well maintained. Of course like any instrument of that age, it would not have the newer acoustic innovations like the polycylindrical bore of the R-13 (as one of the others commented, your instrument pre-dates that introduction). Because of that, it will be different than modern horns. So you would need to get used to its unique characteristics.
Basically it should be a good solid instrument and worthwhile to keep in playing condition. You could use it in any band with confidence or sell it to an advancing student. Just don't expect it to have quite the characteristics of todays clarinets.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 1999-09-28 22:31
Neil Teitelbaum wrote:
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Has anyone ever heard of an Buffet Aparis ?
Just purchased one from the 40's and would like to know
anything I can find out about this series? if in fact it is a series?
Neil -
From the photo on your site, the instrument looks like an early R-13, which would make it from the early 1950s. The outside diameter of the early R-13s was noticeably smaller than the current ones, and this one has that "look" The only way to tell for sure is to find the serial number, which since the early 1950s has been stamped on the back of the top joint and the back of the bottom joint, as low down as it will fit. You can then match the number against the chart here on Sneezy to find the exact age. The pre-1950s instruments had the serial number very lightly stamped in small numbers are the very top of the back of the upper joint and the bottom rear of the lower joint. Many of these instruments (and all the earlier ones) have the importer's name, Carl Fisher, stamped on the bell.
Particularly on the older models, the serial number can be hard to read. It helps to scrub it with an old, damp toothbrush and look at it at an angle in bright sunlight while the wood is still wet.
If the low E and low F# keys for the left little finger are mounted on a single pair of posts (like the top two trill keys), then it's definitely the pre-R-13 model (although the Buffet catalogs from the 1940s listed the standard-keyed model as "R-13." There are a lot of small differences in key design between the "true" (polycylindrical) R-13 and the earlier models, which I posted a couple of years ago and can re-post if you are interested.
Good luck with the instrument.
Ken Shaw
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