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 Please help Identify my Clarinet
Author: Rik Fineout 
Date:   2002-11-12 10:28

I have a used clarinet that I am attempting to identify. I'm not a musician and don't know much about clarinets. I picked this up at a garage sale last weekend. It is made of wood (ebony?) and has embossed the following: Cardinal "HSMS". Anyone with a clue? Thanks for your time.

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 RE: Please help Identify my Clarinet
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2002-11-12 11:52

Have a look on eBay for value.

The Antiques Roadshow may come to your town, someday.

Or, send your description printed on a fifty dollar bill to the Woodwind.org defense fund.

(Do your own homework, junior.)

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 RE: Please help Identify my Clarinet
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2002-11-12 12:04

Synonymous Botch wrote:

> (Do your own homework, junior.)

That's RUDE! We help people identify clarinets here. If you don't want to help then don't post.

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 RE: Please help Identify my Clarinet
Author: Hank 
Date:   2002-11-12 15:24

Hi,

As a contributor to this BB, I am somewhat embarrassed that Synonymous Botch responded to Mr. Fineout in the above manner; how insulting to call someone junior. By his admission, Mr. Fineout is not a musician and knows little about clarinets.

If I had gotten a response from someone telling me "do your own homework" I would quickly assume that clarinetists are an elite group of insensitive individuals (and I know this is not true).

Mr. Fineout, my apologies to you for the answer you recieved from a participant of this BB. In most cases, particpants on this BB are really caring and sensitive people.

Hank

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 RE: Cardinal"HSMS" Clarinet
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2002-11-12 15:39

Rik F - Nearly all of us "regulars" on our Great BBoard are incensed by S B's rude comments, well expressed by Mark C, webmaster. Is there any more info on your horn [or in it's case], serial number, LP or HP, country [France?] that might help identification. The above-title info doesn't ring any bells for me, but may to others, please help! In the late 1800s to maybe 1950, many [reasonably good] clarinets were made in France, Germany, England and US without [discernable] maker's marks for sellers [music stores and others] to add their logos, tradenames etc. We call them "stencils". Thats my guess. Will watch this thread. Luck, Don

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 RE: Cardinal"HSMS" Clarinet
Author: Dee 
Date:   2002-11-12 16:05

Doubt that it is ebony as that was seldom used for clarinets. Perhaps it was part of a group by for a school. The HSM part of the HSMS could mean High School Music. Then you would have Cardinal High School Music XXX. If so, then you probably have an unidentifiable student grade instrument.

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 RE: Cardinal"HSMS" Clarinet
Author: ron b 
Date:   2002-11-12 18:46


Instruments have a unique way of traveling too, Rik. I saw a metal horn a couple of weeks ago on eBay with a Coleman Music Co. tag in the case. The horn was being auctioned from a midwest state, Coleman was a company I worked for in the 50s/60s in California. My point is, akin somewhat to what Dee just said, instruments migrate all over the place and HSMS could mean just about anything. Nevertheless, the part of the world you live in might be helpful.

It would be helpful if you could include any and all details. Go over the horn with a fine tooth comb and note any markings, on the body, on the keys/under the keys... everywhere you can. Are the keys plain nickel silver or are they plated? Is the wood very black or dark brown? Is the embossing factory stamped or inscribed by hand? Sometimes a tiny detail will trigger someone's memory; a few of us go way, waaaay back :) -- uh, you remember Noah(?) :]

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