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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2002-10-31 00:25
"Bless me Father [and Ron B, Dave S, Steve E, Diz, and all who are born or dedicated transposers] for I have sinned!"
I bought a Buffet E11 "C" clarinet from a fellow 'Sneezy'.
My excuse? Can't learn to transpose (too old, dumb and lazy) and my grandson, a ministerial student, wants one badly for his Church folk group.
My deal? That he doesn't want it so badly that he would pray for me to die too soon--then I will leave it to him in my will. We get the best of both worlds, and that way "have not made provision for our lusts."
Can't wait to get my arthritic hands on it!
Bob A
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-10-31 01:23
Good luck with the "C," Bob. I've wanted one of those for quite a while, but I now find myself in a position of having already expended my discretionary funds for the next several months. Shucks.
Regards,
John
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2002-10-31 01:47
I would get confused because I play Bb for my church group, mainly improv by ear. I've gotten so used to thinking "Okay, it's D, better start on E" that I'd create jazz where it doesn't belong!!
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Author: William
Date: 2002-10-31 02:52
Learning to transpose is easier than you think. Just a little practice every day, starting with simple melodies, and you will be suprised at how easy it really is. I learned "on the job" playing in a jazz combo from lead sheets. Amazing how fast you learn how to swim when "dumped in the ocean." The C clarinet will be fun, but don't expect to get that full Bb sound out of it. I own a Buffet E 11 C, but would never use it on a jazz gig because it doesn't produce the kind of sound I need. So I still transpose. Try it--not as hard as you think!!!
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-10-31 02:56
Aw, Bob, for... it's no sin not to transpose. No kidding. It isn't. I really don't know many clarinet players who transpose. They're not dumb or lazy, they just never found a need to do it. It's something I practiced a lot in my younger years. I wasn't born doing it but it comes in handy once in a great while. It's by no means essential to anyone's sense of wellbeing. I also have a C clarinet that's fun to play - I love it It's not exactly a provision for lust, just plain ol' fun.
Main point, as I see things, is to have fun doin' what you can do and enjoy every minute of it.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-10-31 03:27
Bob
You'll find the tone of the c clarinet rather cheeky and not quite so mellow as the Bb or A - although not as cheeky as that of an E flat for obvious reasons. I find the mind way tone of the c (between the Bb and Eb rather charming, call me old fashioned).
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Author: CGG
Date: 2002-10-31 11:42
I've found that my C clarinet has helped me greatly. I have joined in at a local blues jam session and couldn't have done so without it. E is their favourite key and as a beginner I have enough other stuff to learn without having to play in difficult keys.;)
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Author: Frank Mochol
Date: 2002-10-31 13:53
I've often wished for an "a" clarinet when jamming with guitar players....they love those sharp keys
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2002-10-31 14:16
Bob,
I'd forgive you completely, except that you're selling your Malerne clarinet to help pay for the "C"...........
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2002-10-31 14:37
Dave, frankly I'm hoping nobody bids. Then it's easier to explain to the wife why I'm keeping it!
Bob A
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-10-31 15:25
Hey everybody, HEADS UP... DO NOT Bid On Bob's Horn!!!
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Author: chuck
Date: 2002-10-31 19:42
In my opinion, the transposition of concert pitch for the clarinet is plain and simple easy. I also feel it should be taught to beginning clarinetists as a matter of learning basics . . the first need is usually found by playing in a church group or any grouping working from sheet music. Club work makes it mandatory, particularly with singers who have ranges preestablished that rarely coincide with the songwriter's contribution. Re: "jammin' with guitar players", I did a job with a CW outfit and the A Clarinet transposed to the Key of C or G in 90% of their tunes. It's part of the job. Chuck
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-10-31 21:33
chuck - yes that's all very well for those of us who can sit down and do it. Transposition becomes easy with use - some of us just don't have the time to get into the swing of it. I say if you want a C clarinet to make life easier just get one. They are certainly much more abundant than they were when I was a youngster.
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2002-10-31 23:01
Thanks diz, that really reduceds my guilt feeling. Oh, if I were as young as Chuck and REALLY into it, I might change my mind. Anyway, my grandson is thrilled but in no hurry for them to play "Didn't He Ramble" for me on the way to the plot.
Bob A
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2002-11-02 23:26
If I'm the Steve E you're referring to, you have me confused with someone else - I also use a C and don't ranspose, except occassionally (I can transpose a slow ballad or waltz).
Enjoy your C.
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2002-11-03 02:27
Oh I really shall, it's being shipped Monday, UPS 3 Day. Roll on Thursday.
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