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Author: kenabbott
Date: 2002-09-08 12:00
Can anyone make a comparison between these four (or any subset)? I have a 10G, which I love. My first teacher had a Centered Tone, which sounded great. Series 9's are all over Ebay.
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-09-08 21:05
I'm interested too. I recently got a Series 10 Full Boehm for use in Bulgarian wedding-style music (and so far I love it, but am not yet used to its intonational quirks). I've been a "Buffet Girl" for 20 years though, and would like to know more about the differences in Selmer models...
Katrina
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2002-09-08 23:12
Generally speaking the Selmer 9 and 10 have different bores. The 9 is a clylindrical bore and the 10 is a polycylindrical bore is <b>frased</b> ( has undercutting). The Centered Tone and 9 are more closely related. They have the about the same bore size and <u>mostly</u> the same keywork. The Balanced Tone has the early Selmer key work and rather large register pip. The Balanced Tone bore size is different than the Centered Tone and 9 being a little larger. The keywork on the Balanced Tone and Centered Tone were not plated. Selmer started plating the keywork with the Series 9's. The BT, CT, and Series 9 are <b>unfrased</b> (do not have undercutting).
jbutler
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Author: kenabbott
Date: 2002-09-08 23:39
Thanks, jbutler. What about the sound? Do you notice any distinct differences?
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-09-08 23:41
In that case, what is the (predominant) difference between the Selmer 9 and Selmer 9* - in sound, in your opinion, jbutler? thanks
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Author: Ralph Cromer
Date: 2002-09-08 23:59
The Series 9 (no star) was/is a larger bore clarinet. The nominal bore diameter for the Series 9 is .584". The Series 9* is a smaller bore clarinet with a nominal bore diameter of .577". The Series 9* also had limited undercutting (fraising) in the throst tone area, whereas the Series 9 had no undercutting (fraising).
Neither Series 9 instruments have cylindrical bores. Rather, they have what is know as reverse conical or reverse taper bores. The bore is larger at the top of a section and tapers to a smaller diameter.
The 9* was Selmer's first serious attempt to compete with the R13 with a smaller bore instrument. It can be viewed as more an orchestral type instrument versus a big band instrument for the Series 9. The Series 9* plays with more resistance and supposedly has a darker sound - that of course is very subjective.
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-09-09 01:10
Thanks for the info, jbutler and Ralph.
One more question, then...
What's the usual bore size of the Series 10? Do you know if that would vary between keywork systems? (I'm assuming my FB would be the same bore as a regular Boehm, but ya never know!)
Katrina
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Author: Ralph
Date: 2002-09-11 02:29
According to my information, the nominal bore diameter of a Series 10 (with no S, G or any other suffix) was/is .572". I believe that it is the first Selmer model with undercutting of a majority if not all tone holes.
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2002-09-11 11:35
Ken,
The Selmer BT plays very freely and bold. Pitch can be a problem if you don't have a good embouchre to control the notes due to the wide bore. There was a "N" series serial number that did not have a moniker like the other Selmer clarinets. I've found every one of them to be excellent performers with better intonation and sound similar to the BT. The CT is also a free blowing clarinet. I've found it to be close the the BT in overall sound, but a little more constrained. I use the CT more than the BT these days. The 9 is a good clarinet but sounds completely different than the BT and CT. A little more refined if you will, but excellent on intonation.
jbutler
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