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Author: Keil
Date: 2002-08-29 02:47
I don't recall ever seeing an in depth discussion on these particular mouthpieces... lemme see what you all think about these. I know ultimately it comes down to trying it out for yourself but it's always good to get a sampling of the general clarinet playing public to give some feedback.
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Author: charles
Date: 2002-08-29 03:18
Well, I got mine made for me pretty much, it is a marvelous mouthpiece!! I get a deep clear sound, and it isnt too free blowing, but not too much resistance either, I went through about 9 or so, and the final battle came down to about 5 so, if that gives you a clue as to my experience, it was a very hard choice, they were mostly all very nice. I think they would be a very worthy investment to you if you can manage to try and few and see what you like.
Good luck,
Charles
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Author: SJ
Date: 2002-08-29 03:35
I hope hte mouthpieces are better than his barrels!
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-29 04:28
SJ wrote:
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> I hope hte mouthpieces are better than his barrels!
Now, why would you say that? Because you didn't find one that you liked, you condemn all for everyone?
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Author: S.J.
Date: 2002-08-29 07:22
Mark,don't be anal. Tou're just commenting on my personal opinion. Pyne barrels are just another over-priced clarinet accesory in an already over-gadgeted marketplace.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-29 11:30
S.J. wrote:
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> Mark,don't be anal. Tou're just commenting on my personal
> opinion. Pyne barrels are just another over-priced clarinet
> accesory in an already over-gadgeted marketplace.
Perhaps. One liners tell us nothing unless there's amplifying text. So far you've told us nothing except you don't like to type.
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Author: Jerry McD
Date: 2002-08-29 13:21
Back to the discussion at hand.......
I'm going to put my disclaimer at the beginning of my post as opposed to the end because it is truly my opinion...
My experience with the Pyne mouthpieces runs from trying them when I was mouthpiece shopping as well as anytime I encountered someone who played them I asked to try them. So all told I have probably tried maybe 15 or so. I find they have a full rich beautiful sound that is severely lacking in flexibility, as well as a little stuffy. Needless to say some were worse, and some were better (go figure!). My point is that they don't work for me. That doesn't mean that they would not work for you. If you look at Pyne's website you can't argue with the line-up of players that are endorsing his mouthpiece. This being said I think that if you are considering putting down $200 on a mouthpiece (which I don't think is outragous for a hand finished piece) you should try several more makers. I play Greg Smith's chedeville and many others would recommend this. I would also suggest trying a Fobes as well.
The gist of all this drivel is that Pyne mouthpieces are considered top drawer pieces with a price to match. They are certainly worth considering in a thorough mouthpiece search but they don't work for me.
my $.02
Jerry McD.
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Author: William
Date: 2002-08-29 14:41
The only "good" mouthpiece is the one that works for you. As for Pyne's products, I tried one with Russell Dagon's personal facing, and I didn't like it. However, I gave it to my daughter and she was able to play it right away, and preferred it to my other custom mpcs, including two Chicago Kaspars and a very nice special order Ithica Bay. Like in garage sales, one persons junk is anothers treasure. And as so many players will tell you, no matter shose mouthpiece you use, you will eventually return to your own "personal" sound which is dictated by the tonal concept you have developed in your mind. You just need to find that one mouthpiece that will most easily produce that inner sound and "let you be all that you want to be"--clarinet-wise. The Pyne that I tried did not "do it" for me. What works is my old Chicago Kaspar, my customized WoodWind G8's (by my college clarinet professor, Glenn Bowen) and my Ithica Bay with it's Kaspar #14 facing. Now lets not get into ligatures and reeds!!!!!
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-08-29 14:54
Keil -
I've tried several Pyne mouthpieces, but haven't liked them particularly. This is probably because he makes almost exclusively asymmetrical facings. These have to be gotten used to.
There's been quite a bit of discussion about the topic here and on the Klarinet board, with numerous makers adding their expertise. Use the search functions to find them.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Keil
Date: 2002-08-29 23:50
Thanx all. I play on a Greg Smith and i LOVE it but my new teacher is saying that she might have me switch later on to a Pyne. I was told that it takes alot of searching around for that RIGHT pyne but when you find it it's DEFINETLY worth while... as of now i'm staying with and loving my Greg Smith and if i do invest in a Pyne i'm sure i will continue playing on my beloved Greg Smith. Wow, is it just me or was that like a major promo for Greg Smith's exquisite craftsmanship?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-30 01:09
Keil wrote:
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> Thanx all. I play on a Greg Smith and i LOVE it but my
> new teacher is saying that she might have me switch later on to
> a Pyne.
What's the rationale?
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-08-30 03:03
Many players tend toward what works best and changing is a definte no no...as for some the Kaspar may seem to flexible and depending on the embouchure certain players may find the hold in the tone of the Pyne's to their liking. I believe there are two models the bel Canto and the Clarinon. I haven't seen or heard them but figure they can't be too bad if James Campbell endorses them. He is fantastic!
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Author: nzdonald
Date: 2002-08-30 11:45
i believe that Pyne and Johnston both are great fans of the asymetrical facing... i SUSPECT that this is something best fitted to you by the maker. Both makers have discussed in interviews how they watch and listen to a player for clues as to what they might want/need when doing custom refacing work. This doesn't mean that you won't find a mouthpiece you like by trying many out, but that a refacing session with Pyne/Johnston is much more likely to result in you playing a mouthpiece that brings out the best in you.
no, i've never played a Pyne that i liked but i've been beaten in more than one audition by people who use them, for what that's worth.
dnald
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Author: Ed
Date: 2002-08-30 12:59
"no, i've never played a Pyne that i liked but i've been beaten in more than one audition by people who use them, for what that's worth."
Does anybody know the brand of tools Norm Abram uses on "This Old House" and "New Yankee Workshop"? He builds some wonderful looking stuff and I am sure if I get a hammer or power saw just like his I could do the same.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2002-08-30 13:10
The proof is in the pudding. there are so may mouthpieces out there--- it makes one's head spin! People really interested in something usually head to a site or a dealer. I also know there are Wurlitizer and buffet clarinets--- but can't keep track of every model that is out there as well!
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Author: Keil
Date: 2002-08-30 19:27
the only rationale that i got thus far, and mind you it was a brief discussion, was basically that Pyne's were her preferred mpc, stating that when you found a good one you've really found something amazing! that was basically all...
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