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Author: John Gibson
Date: 2002-07-09 06:08
Hi my knowledgable friends....
Being a novice at this, I'd like to know the difference between a Bb
and A Moennig barrel. Just purchased a Bb Moennig from the Sneezy ads and thought "hey why don't I get the A as well?" Would it not work with my Bb R-13?
Also what pray tell is the BIG difference between Moennig and Chadash barrels?
Another question if you will allow me. I've still not received a response to my qquestion about Wiseman cases, so am curious. Will a soprano sax case work for my metal clarinet? And do they make double sop sax cases? You guys are the best. thanks...
John
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2002-07-09 13:43
I think it is unlikely that a sop case will suit a clarinet. For a sop sax the tubing tapers evenly from as large as a clarinet bell to smaller than a clarinet bore, and keys stick out a long way in many directions. The clarinet tapers suddenly from the bell, and has body-hugging keys. A case could not be a snug fit for both instruments, but if the sax case lining was very spongy and compromising it may well fit a clarinet.
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Author: clarinetqween
Date: 2002-07-09 14:23
Weisman Cases are absolutely wonderful! I have one that houses my Bb A and Eb clarinets (plus an extra area that could fit another clarinet but I just use it for all of my supplies). I do not think that it would work for what you want though. Good Luck!
-ClarinetQween
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Author: John Gibson
Date: 2002-07-09 15:40
Dear Miss Clarinetqween....
Howard Wiseman can make a case for me to fit both my metal and wooden clarinets. He has an incentive program whereby I use a previous buyers number when ordering and you get credit. Once your number indicates 10 referrals, Wiseman sends you a free case.
If I remember, using a previous buyers number also entitles me to a 10 percent discount. Anyway, if you'd like to receive credit toward a case e-mail me your number. Although if may take a while for me to save the nearly 700 dollars for the case....
John Gibson
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2002-07-09 17:11
Thanks for the input on sop sax cases. Now, what about the barrels?
Dif between A & Bb? Moennig and Chadash? thanks again...
John
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Author: clarinetqween
Date: 2002-07-09 17:47
SOrry I didn't know. I just said that I didn't think that they would fit and every one is entitiled to their own opinion last time I checked. I just thought that you came off rather snobby in your post that is all, I already have a case that I paid for myself and I didn't have to do anything silly like that.
-ClarinetQween
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2002-07-09 23:57
Didn't mean to offend you Clarinetqween...or come off snobby. I don't think Howard Wiseman's incentive plan is silly. It's a way for him to get his product out there without advertising. He wrote me and told me of the incentive plan. Says many professional musicans actually pay for ads in magazines themselves listing their personal number, encouraging people to use them as a way to get a discount and to lay ground for the number provider to get a free case. Sounds like a great marketing plan to me.
I take it you don't have a number to share and take advantage of this great product.
John Gibson
PS...had I wanted to be snobby or even rude....believe me....I would have. And am tempted to now...but won't.
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2002-07-10 00:00
Dave S....
Thanks for reminding me of the bore differences in Bb and A. As always you and many others on "the board" have way more marbles than I do. Your insight is invaluable.
John
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-07-10 20:08
I'm curious...when I play my A (verrrry rarely these days) it's usually with one of these notorious 444-446 type accordions. I've been using my Click barrel on the A as well as on my Bb. I LOVE it for my Bb, which I play at least once a week with a sharpie accordion... Anyone think I should not use it on my A? It works, but feels a little odd...
Katrina
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2002-07-11 04:11
Kat,
A clarinets are often (usually?) made with a different (smaller) bore size than the "matching" Bb from the same manufacturer. In theory, then a barrel that is optimized for the Bb will not be optimized for the A. That's why most, if not all, of the good barrel makers make both Bb and A versions. In practice, however, depending on the instrument and the barrel and the player, the difference may not be sufficiently significant for some players to notice. From past discussions and also from personal observation, I know that some orchestral players (at least at the amateur level) transfer both the barrel and the mouthpiece when switching between Bb and A clarinets, apparently without adverse effect. I don't know what most pros do, particularly in major organizations. Of course, if you're playing with accordions ..., it helps to have perfect pitch ;^). Anyone for "Yellow Bird"?
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-07-11 19:21
jnk...
Perfect pitch as in throwing the accordion into the dumpster and hitting the oboe?
;)
Katrina
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2002-07-12 03:09
Ouch! How did you know I just got an oboe?
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of "tossing an accordion into a dumpster at 15 feet without hitting either side" -- but maybe you're right. ;^)
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2002-07-12 03:35
jnk,
Ouch! You just got Yamaha CS model "A" clarinet too!....V
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