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 Have we lost them?
Author: anon 
Date:   2002-06-11 01:57

I've been looking through the archives of this website...have we lost all our great teachers? It seems everyone worships Marcellus and Forrest. While he was great, he's dead, and no one seems to be talking about other teachers. I'm certainly not complaining, but is this generation of players suffering because of this lack of "Greats"? Your thoughts are appreciated.

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 RE: Have we lost them?
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2002-06-11 02:02

It is almost axiomatic that great teachers are dead teachers. There are plenty of "live" ones to go around.

Regards,
John

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 RE: Have we lost them?
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2002-06-11 02:22

Forrest?

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 RE: Have we lost them?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2002-06-11 02:43

Let's not forget the many great teachers that are "in the trenches" day in and day out, whether public or private school, starting beginners and keeping them on the right path with the proper fundamentals.

It takes tremendous dedication and skill to guide the 9-14 year old age group properly.

Remember, for every great clarinetist who eventually studied with Marcellus, Wright, et. al., there was someone who originally set them on the correct path.

Those are truly the great (and often unrecognized) teachers...GBK

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 RE: Have we lost them?
Author: ken 
Date:   2002-06-11 02:54

Yea, Forrest Tucker Mark...you know. <:-) The hills are alive with cornerstone-quality teachers that could easily take you to the top. 4 off the top of my head and all but hidden "gems" that are still in business are Porter Idom, Melvin Warner, Ron Ruben and Charlene Zimmerman.

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 RE: Have we lost them?
Author: LaLa 
Date:   2002-06-11 04:14

i agree with GBK too often we over look those teachers who got the students started fundamenally in middle and high school and sometimes earlier than that... Those teachers deserve our thanks and appreciation!

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 RE: Have we lost them?
Author: John Gibson 
Date:   2002-06-11 05:53

Again...my recommendation is to listen...and "crainially transcribe"....however...I will always remember Anthony Russo. He was my private teacher 7th & 8th grade. First chair clarientist for the Houston Symphony in the early 60's. At that time he was 80 something. Drooled as he held his pipe in is mouth aand yelled "no tongue tie...no tongue tie!" A referrence to sloppy tonguing. He'd put down the pipe...pick up his buffet(a real musty one!) and play the most beautiful music! There aren't many like him anymore.
They're all pretty boys.(and girls) It's what political correctness has gotten us. No more rulers slapped on our hands...
no more "that sounds like dogs in heat!" comments.....and very few good players anymore. We need more teachers(and people) who tell it "like it is" for any young people to really learn clarinet...trombone...trampoline...cooking dinner...raising kids....
and just plain being a good human being.
I love you guys...
John

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 RE: Have we lost them?
Author: LaLa 
Date:   2002-06-11 07:13

A wise man once told me that "the reason why some bands play and sound horribly is because they were never told they play and sound horribly!" I agree... I miss the task masters!

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 have we lost them?
Author: task slave? 
Date:   2002-06-11 15:16

Miss the task masters? They are still here. You've not met my teacher, Thomas Piercy. He is most certainly of the school of tough love - task master. I think he got it from his own studies with Opperman, Russianoff and De Peyer. Some of the stories he tells me of what they would say, and some of the things he tells me are somewhat painful to hear at first, but are ultimately enlightening and helpful.

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 RE: have we lost them?
Author: Kat 
Date:   2002-06-11 16:17

Yeah, I tell my students when they sound like crap... I let 'em know when it's horrible. They are usually aware, too, when they've done poorly. That's part of what I'm there to teach them. Almost all of my students are 12-15. I have a couple who are younger, and a couple of adult beginners. With the "kids" I really have tried to get them to listen to what they're doing.

My real problem is when they don't take me seriously. One kid, whom I threatened to "throttle" if he kept honking (intentionally sounding bad) away on his clarinet, really never "gets" it. He thinks everything is a joke. Maybe it has something to do with him being 13...

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