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Author: michael
Date: 2002-05-28 16:49
Has the Beethoven Violin Concerto that Mikahil Pletnev transcribed for Clarinet (which Michael Collins recorded) been officially published yet? If not, is there any way to get a copy of it?
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Author: Rob Bell
Date: 2002-05-28 17:17
Hi!
I emailed Deutsche-Gramaphone (the record label it was released on) and they said there was no known publication and that Michael Collins played from Pletnev's manuscript.
To further this Collins has apparently dropped it from his repertoire, so unless you transcripe it yourself (which i attempted, with some success) i don't think you will get hold of it.
Rob
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2002-05-28 19:11
If you have music notation software such as Finale, Sibelius or Encore, you can make the job easier by going to one of the large classical midi sites and downloading the concerto in midi format. You can then read it into your software and use the software to change the key of and transpose the solo part. Finally, go through and edit for errors, notes outside the clarinet's range, double-stops, etc.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Rob Bell
Date: 2002-05-28 19:59
Never thought of that Jack!
Anyway transposing by hand (or on sibelius) saved many hours of boredom on long train journeys back and forth to college each day!!
Rob
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Author: William
Date: 2002-05-28 21:49
Why not just play it from the violin part on C clarinet?? Or, if that idea is not appealing, try playing it (with a little study, if necessary) directly from the violin part on your Bb or A clarinet. Another way to save the trouble of "writting it out" or transposing via computer program and also, learn to transpose--often a valuable and prudent skill to be adept at. Just some thoughts--Good Clarineting!!!!
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-05-28 23:55
As much as I have a great regard for transcriptions, I think the Beethoven really does not work terribly well on the clarinet. Even though, at the time, this concerto was considered almost unplayable, Beethoven demonstrated a keen knowledge of string technique (I play viola and clarinet, by the way). Hence, taking this piece out of context and "arranging" it for the clarinet seems like a nice idea, I just can't get my head around it.
The third movement, for example, uses double and triple stopped arpeggio work requiring great virtuoso skill for the violinist - but on the clarinet?
I'm not convinced - this is my opinion, by the way.
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2002-05-29 01:08
In the second movement, there's no way the clarinet can hang above the orchestra like the violin can. Clarinets just can't sound as good up there and won't blend like a violin. I am also a violinist and I have played through the Beethoven; most violinists consider it one of the most difficult violin concertos, if not the most difficult to pull off completely.
And you can't play the Fritz Kreisler cadenza on clarinet...
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-05-29 01:43
Indeed = though, the Kriesler cadenza is dreadful - it's romantic fireworks and slush - totally foreign to the classical era. However, I like it for what it is - showy and sparkly.
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