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Author: Carmen izzo
Date: 2002-04-10 04:45
Pardon my Bluntness. ..
But recently my significant other has been talking about Grainger's Molly on the Shore and practicing and playing (her part) obsessively. I find that it is really annoying and should be boycotted by all the rest of us SANE clarinetists. The music is silly and repetitive and does nothing but drive one insane. So who will come and follow me and boycott MOLLY ON THE SHORE??
Carmen IZzo
PS this post is mean to be silly, so please lets avoid turing this great BB into a bloodbath!
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-04-10 05:06
Carmen, I would rather hear "Molly on the Shore" much more than "Stranger on the Shore."
Regards,
John
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-04-10 05:20
A truly frightening scenario:
"Acker Bilk Plays Molly on the Shore" ...GBK
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Author: William
Date: 2002-04-10 13:32
I like "Molly on the Shore" (Goucho aside, "Rather than on my stand") Still waiting for the release of Anker Bilk's "Mozart Concerto." Good Clarineting!!!!!!
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Author: ken
Date: 2002-04-10 14:00
You want to experience mind-numbing tedium try spending 45 minutes in your routine everyday cranking out your major and minor scales in 3rds (all 3 modes modes), 3 octaves and with a minimum of 3 articulations. I applaud the person for their superb work ethic and strive for perfection. Depending on the tempo that solo clarinet part can be a real bugger. Programming fingers is a legitimate and necessary fundamental in the arduous process of making music. But, when the curtain goes up and the stick comes down, the part will be nailed, the audience gets what they paid for and the current challenge was a rousing success.
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Author: james garica
Date: 2002-04-10 16:03
I don't get what is so hard about that piece??? You can learn it in fifteen minutes of practice! It's in the perfect key of F Major. As long as you have good tech and tounging abilities you are find.
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Author: Blake
Date: 2002-04-10 20:44
Blake on Pineapple Poll was even scarier last sat... although my little Effer solo in the second movement was faboo.. I was even told it was musical! and in tune! hows that!
Blake Velde
Arlington, VA
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-04-10 20:56
I'm still in debt to Acker Bilk for inspiring me to start learning the clarinet when I was 12. It was, indeed, 'Stranger on the Shore' so I'll hear nothing against him!
Blake,
A musical, in-tune E flat? Did you have to duck to avoid the flying pigs, or swerve to avoid the pink elephants?
jez
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2002-04-10 21:10
Blake,
I've heard you play eefer, and I'll take your "Pineapple Poll" over Kenny G's anytime! --LOL--
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-04-10 21:31
jez: Acker Bilk gets kicked around by a great number of Clarinet players because of two simple reasons: First, many are mystified by his style... we do not understand why he plays that way -- it is so foreign to any other well-known player's technique. Second, many are just plain jealous because with that style, he has sold millions of records and we haven't.
Regards,
John
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Author: Suzanne
Date: 2002-04-10 21:38
Did you see my vote for "your LEAST favorite piece," an earlier thread? I rest my case.
And of course, the band director always wants to take it around quarter=132. Whoever says it's not hard, has either not played the solo part, or not played it up to tempo. Either that, or I'm totally jealous of their technique!
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Author: Suzanne
Date: 2002-04-10 21:39
Oops, I mean half note=132. (See, I've repressed the horror of it.)
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Author: Kristin
Date: 2002-04-11 02:42
Whoever says Molly on the Shore is not a challenging piece is CRAZY. At first it seems like it's just scales, but if you play it up to tempo with correct dynamics, the solo cl. part can be quite difficult. There's barely a place to breathe throughout the entire piece! Anyway, I think I have every right to practice my part obsessively!
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Author: Cindy
Date: 2002-04-11 03:03
Molly on the Shore is the most annoying piece ever! Even worse, our section is not very big, so the entire first part is a solo! Up to tempo is also insane. I think that that song should be about a page long if it is played at all. We have a concert next friday, and we have that as our feature piece! UGH!!! I think after we play it this year we should either go bury it or burn it. It is too boring and monotonous to be played slowly, but very hard and the band can't really play it perfectly at a faster speed. By the end I feel like I haven't taken a breath yet. I have also been told that my fingers look like they will fall off and that I never take a breath. I will be very happy when this next concert is over and I can get rid of it!
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-04-11 03:21
"Boring" and "annoying" are personal concepts. Listening to Pachelbel's Canon won't even put me to sleep, because I don't think it's that good. Yet it's said to be the most-recorded "classical" selection in history. Go figure.
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2002-04-11 14:05
I agree with JMcAulay --- pardon my blasphemy, but I happen to think that Mozart's Clarinet Concerto is boring (to play and to listen to) -- charming, perhaps, but no more than that. I can't figure out the reverence paid to this piece by most of the classical clarinet world. So sue me!
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Author: lynn
Date: 2002-04-11 15:38
Ken>>You want to experience mind-numbing tedium try spending 45 minutes in your routine everyday cranking out your major and minor scales in 3rds (all 3 modes modes), 3 octaves and with a minimum of 3 articulations.<<
Cranking them out? Nah. Crank them out at 8th = 60 like one of my former teachers used to make me do. See how many hours that takes ya. THAT's tedium. LOL
Lynn
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Author: Suzanne
Date: 2002-04-11 21:38
I have played the solo part several times for several different conductors, and I have always left a note out to breathe (in a place that makes musical sense) on the extended solo on the 2nd page (the stupid throat-toney one, with the accented throat Bb's, what was he thinking? geez!), and no one has ever noticed. Either that, or they didn't say anything about it. It sure helps the breathing problem.
(It's still a dumb piece though.)
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-04-12 06:17
GBK - isn't this an arrangement of another work of Grainer's for band?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-04-12 07:14
diz...Molly on the Shore was written in 1907 for strings and was based on 2 different Irish reels ("Temple Hill" and "Molly on the Shore"). It was dedicated to Edvard Grieg.
Grainger did the band arrangement in 1920 as a birthday gift for his mother...GBK
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