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 Duet
Author: Ambuoroko 
Date:   2002-04-10 19:55

Hello again everyone. This will probably be a very odd question. As extra credit in my band, I am composing a short solo/ensemble piece. I don't really need the extra credit, but it sounded like fun, so I said I would try it. Now, my main instruments are Euphonium and Clarinet (I play a few others but not well), and so I would like to use these in my piece, mostly so that I could play it more easily to test it out and what not. Also, I just enjoy those two instruments. However, I can't really play them both at once, and I can't find any clarinetists to help me (they don't like me much), and the other Euphonium in our band doesn't play in the style that I want to write in, so I can't really judge by having him do a euphonium part. My question is, would it be totally improbable to have a Euphonium/Clarinet duet for my short piece? I know that many times the Euphonium plays with alto sax and whatnot (a kind of neat coincidence, considering the inventors), but I'm not sure I've ever seen Euphonium play with clarinet. Would it be possible to do that, or do you think that would be a terrible idea? I wish I could find a euphonium or clarinet to play a bit together with me to hear it, but I'll just go on your opinion. Also, for anyone experienced with composition, what ranges approximately do you think it should be in? For example, if the Euphonium would be better in its upper octave (for dueting with clarinet), I would write it up there. Just looking for any advice from anyone. I don't actually have ANY formal education, I just figure I'll go along with what I think will sound interesting, and hope that the two parts fit together. I have a notation program (Finale Notepad), but the MIDI sounds really aren't good for juding these things.

Thanks again,
John

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 RE: Duet
Author: jez 
Date:   2002-04-10 20:45

Sounds like a great idea to me, Ambuoroko. The euph. and the clarinet are both good blending instruments so I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work. You've got a choice of ranges, the clar. could play lower some of the time and you could have a wide spread with the clar. playing high up. Go for it.
jez

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 RE: Duet
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2002-04-10 21:02

Amburoko, it also sounds fine to me. I've never heard a Clarinet/Euphonium duet, but so what. If you want to write it and play it, by all means go ahead.

I would suggest you try a simple duet between the two instruments first, perhaps using music arranged for two tenor saxophones, playing one part first on the Ephonium and recording it with a good-quality microphone and recorder. Then play it back, and play the other part on the Clarinet along with it. Have a couple of friends you trust listen to it and tell you how it sounds, or use another recorder so you can listen to yourself play both parts.

I'll bet you will enjoy this.

Regards,
John

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 RE: Duet
Author: Ambuoroko 
Date:   2002-04-10 23:20

Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I have a question that really has nothing to do with clarinets, but I don't really know where I'd find a conglomerate of euphonium players, so I hope you won't mind if I ask. Here's my next question (which the Tenor sax duet idea brought to mind): Would anyone around here happen to know where I'd find a fingering guide for Euphonium TC? I suppose I shouldn't be lazy, but transposing a tenor sax part to Euphonium BC doesn't seem too appealing to me right now. I can surely borrow such a duet from my band director, who majored on Tenor Sax, but I still need the Euphonium fingerings. I could very easily just sit and figure them out, but as I said, I don't want to have to deal with such things. Also, it would be useful to read both bass and treble (then I could play some of the fun clarinet band parts on Euphonium!). I guess a trumpet fingering chart would be good, too. Doesn't need to be anything fancy, because I'm already rather competant. Just maybe a one octave fingering chart or something to help me learn the conversions. Unless, of course, anyone thinks it's a bad idea to learn to read both? Sorry to be a pain, but it's useful to help further me as a musician. I think I shall ask another question in the near future, but not yet. Don't want to be TOO much of a pain for now :)

Thanks yet again,
John

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 RE: Duet
Author: Joe O'Kelly 
Date:   2002-04-11 02:36

Use a trumpet fingering guide for Euphonium in treble cleff.

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 RE: Duet
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2002-04-11 03:09

If it's a three-valve Bb Euphonium, it has the same fingering as the very similar Baritone horn, which is generally written in TC. As Joe says, it's the same as a trumpet or cornet.

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 RE: Duet
Author: Cindy 
Date:   2002-04-11 03:17

I do not know much about composition and such, but I do know there are some odd duets out there. For example, I saw for the very first time in my entire life a bassoon and tuba duet today. It looked interesting, but we are yet to see how it sounds.

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