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Author: Chris Tyle
Date: 2002-03-07 05:19
Hi, I need a little expert help here! Tonight I played a friend's 10G and was smitten! However, finding a resonably priced one seems to be a challenge. I have been looking on the web and have found a couple of reasonably priced Selmer series 9 clarinets for sale, around $500. Can someone give me an idea what the differences are between the two horns? I am a jazz player and I tend to favor a big New Orleans-type sound, especially in the low register.
Many thanks,
Chris Tyle
New Orleans
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2002-03-07 10:18
Go for an Albert or Oehler system! No way a Boehm even a 10G can compete in the low register and around the break.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-03-07 16:48
Chris -
The Selmer 10G has a relatively small Buffet-style bore. It's a copy of Anthony Gigliotti's extensively tweaked R-13.
The Series 9 has a relatively large bore, in the old Selmer style, and is much in demand for jazz work. (Note that the Series 9* has a Buffet-style bore).
If you find a 10G, you should check the intonation carefully. Many of them are out.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: charles
Date: 2002-03-07 21:01
Hi Ken,
I have a 10G. I found that 10G sounds much louder than R13. Even louder than Leblanc L7 which has bigger bore. I tried same mouthpiece on those horns. What makes 10G sound louder? Thanks.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-03-07 21:03
Chris - personally speaking, I have owned a Selmer Series 9 clarinet - the worst thing I ever did was sell it! I now own a LeBlanc - and I'm very happy, too. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and get a Buffet? (maybe not).
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-03-07 21:15
diz...bite the bullet, bite the bullet, bite the bullet...GBK
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Author: Martin
Date: 2002-03-07 23:48
Chris- A well known jazz clarinetist told me he was sorry the Selmer 9 series had a relatively short life. If it is in good conditon and your interest is jazz it might be the way to go. I have a Selmer 9 and find it offers less resistance than some others instruments I've tried.
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Author: Ralph
Date: 2002-03-08 02:00
One major difference between the Series 9 and the 10G, other than bore dimension, is that the 10G has extensively undercut tone holes. The Series 9, as is common with larger bore clarinets, has no undercut tone holes. The Series 9 was in production from approximately 1960 through the early 1970s - approximately 15 years.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2002-03-08 02:05
Charles,
My guess is that your 10G sounds louder because your mouthpiece is better matched to it than the other two. The 10G, R13 and L7 are all examples of "small bore" clarinets. A mouthpiece that is optimized for one may not be for the others.
Diz,
Are you sure that's the worst thing you EVER did? ;^)
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Rob
Date: 2002-03-08 02:14
I have played many Selmer 10Gs and owned two of them. I have never experienced anything unusual as far as intonatin problems are concerned. I have certainly found their intonation to be more stable and predictable than any Buffet R13 I have played.
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2002-03-08 02:34
THE R-13 IS A SMALL BORE? THE SELMER 9 IS LARGER? How much larger? Isn't the R-13 .574? And the Selmer 9.....?
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Author: Ralph
Date: 2002-03-08 03:10
John - the nominal bore dimension of the Series 9 is .584".
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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-03-09 03:27
Does anyone have any experience with how the Series 9 compares to the Balanced Tone or Centered Tone?
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