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Author: Robin
Date: 2002-01-04 23:40
Someone may well have already talked about this, but is it possible to use the above phrase less often. If it's just to point people in the relevant direction, then sure, of course it's a great thing to say. However, I've been following this board for a while now, and surely some subjects can always do with more conversation. I think it's great how many new people check this site out, and surely they can offer new perspectives on thouroughly old topics. Of course, I'm not advocating a million more threads on "what kind of clarinet do you play?" but there have been other topics which I feel could have been stifled be a well-meaning person saying "do a search."
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-01-04 23:55
Doing a search is basic research - if a question hasn't been addressed thoroughly before, or a new twist is brought up - sure, go ahead and ask it. But doing basic research is <b>always</b> a good thing. There's a thing on the Internet known as "netiquette" (send an email to <a href="mailto:netiquette@clarinet.org">netiquette@clarinet.org</a> to get a copy); one of the tenants is to check through a list, check the FAQs, do a little research <b>before</b> posting a question. The chances are it's been answered before.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-01-05 00:57
Thank you Mark. It always amazes me at the number of questions that are posed on the bulletin board which can be answered by simply spending a few minutes of searching.
A basic requirement in learning is how to find the right answer.
Remember when we all used to go to the library and check through the card catalogues and reference sections?
Yes, times have changed, but the principles of research are still the same...GBK
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Author: Mindy
Date: 2002-01-05 01:07
hmmm...... I'm sorry but I sort of agree with Robin. But at the same time I don't . I think that if you do want to know what kind of clarinet you use.......what mp you use....what kinds of reeds you use......etc. you do need to use the search. But I have seen others that aren't like that and people are so blunt of saying "go search for it." pretty much saying I don't want to talk about it. You can say..like...give them your answer even if you want you can shorten it but then say if you want to know more try searching for it. I know some of these post I have never posted at and when it supposibly comes up again I feel like I can't talk about it because someone has already said...."Go search for it."
That of course is my opinion. Please don't get mad at me.
Mindy
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Author: Peter
Date: 2002-01-05 02:10
Ditto.
Robin,
How do the new people know what are "...new perspectives on thoroughly old topics." if they don't know what has been said before?
I know it may sound like a cop out, but it really gets old repeating the same answers to the same questions time after time after time after time...
Taking that under consideration, the kindest answer I can think of to someone who just got here and doesn't know the ropes; who is asking a question that was just thoroughly answered a week ago, is to point out that the subject was already discussed and there is a place on the site where they can find many, if not all of the answers they seek.
Have you read the posts where someone says, "I've already looked at past threads and the answer was not there"? If you have, you'll see that nobody gets turned down or away when requesting additional information to a valid question.
I am not one of the BBs old timers, not by a long shot, and I can only speak for myself, but I challenge you to find a user-friendlier or more informative clarinet site on the web.
There have been questions posed here that had nothing remotely to do with the clarinet, to which this site is supposed to be specific, and even they have been generally allowed.
As often as Mark Charette and I may or may not have agreed on any given subject (and there have been a few,) I'm regularly surprised at how much he (and others) are willing to put up with on this BB at any given time. And, if I'm going to be honest, that includes putting up with me.
Stick around. Contribute. This really is a very nice place to be and where nobody should feel stifled by anyone saying, "Do a search, then come back and post."
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2002-01-05 04:04
Maybe it's my generation (geezer-speak) but I will never forget my father almost constantly telling me ---"Look It Up." I used to get mad about that, but I never forgot it, and having found it I usually knew more than if he had told me.
Bob A
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2002-01-05 04:45
For those of us who have read this board regularly for several years, (since 1998 for me) many questions are very repetitive. These seem to include:
What is the best brand of clarinet?
What mouthpiece should I use?
Why do I squeek?
How do I transpose from concert pitch?
My teacher/ director/ fellow band members hate me, what can I do?
Why is there only one good reed in a box?
Excellent answers to all of these and so much more are waiting in the archives!
And my personal favorite... "I'm doing a paper, tell me everything you know about the clarinet."
Most of us, I suspect, have been through the educational process, or are presently involved in it, a suggestion to do research should not be taken in any negative way. It is a tool in the process of learning. Ask after reasearch has not provided the answer. And we do have it easy now with the internet, search engines and sites such as this one. Like GBK I too remember schleping down to the library and thumbing through card files.
Please ask! (But look in the archives first.)
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Author: Robin
Date: 2002-01-05 12:46
I agree with you all. And this is such a friendly board. I guess a few times
(note: a few) I've had the feeling that younger people may have been posting, and sure, young people need to learn these things one way or another.
I was not intending to give the impression that I found this site unfriendly, because I've really got so much out of it. You'll see this if you do a search! =)
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Author: ~ jerry
Date: 2002-01-05 13:49
Henry Ford was once (give or take an exageration or two) accused by the media of being ignorant because he didn't know who Bennedict Arnold (sp) was. Mr. Ford replied, "If I need to know who he was, I have enough money to pay someone to research it for me."
I was sort of like Bob's dad, with my children. I tried to never say, "I don't know." when mine asked a question. I would say, "Let's go look it up." Doing a "search" is a good habit to get into but I often do not follow my own advice. A lot of the time I'm not sure of the "key word" to search for -- usually due to my naivete (or lack of imagination) about the subject.
So, I am not offended if someone says, "Do a search." However, it would be a lot more helpfull if a "key word" were suggested to aide in the search.
Absoulutly a most generous and helpful BB, Mark -- we owe you much.
Mark, I know last year that Sneezy had some extreme capital expense and we all sort of pitched in to help with that. I am sure that you still have oprerational expenses so it's probably time for some of us to ante up a few bucks -- how about it guys!!!
Where do we send our lottery winnings?
~ jerry
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2002-01-05 17:34
actually, this thread is a repeat of a few months back. yes, weve discussed this before too. do a search and you will see lol
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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-01-05 20:46
Another very good reason to do the search first is one that Peter alluded to - that some very knowledgable individuals may tire of repeating themselves on a frequent basis and may not respond to the new posting at all. Without the search, the inquirer may miss the best information altogether.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2002-01-07 18:41
Sometimes a new person's outlook on a worn-out subject can be refreshing. But, doing a search to see what has already been discussed is a very helpful research tool.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-01-09 02:00
Robin ... amen! I got "my knuckles wrapped" for bringing up an old topic (by Mark), but it was cool. However, my attitude is, that this is a "free speach" bulletin board and if you don't like what people say just ignore them. I'm new to this site and so far I've gain a few really nice friends, a new clarinet (second hand) and some composition commissions - so I'm thrilled!
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