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 Ithaca
Author: Albert 
Date:   2001-12-03 00:53

Hi !
Has anyone ever auditioned for Ithaca College, NY ? Do we need to know Minor Scales ? What is the best way to learn minor scales in a short amount of time ?! Thanks.

Albert

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: Larry Liberson 
Date:   2001-12-03 01:11

"What is the best way to learn minor scales in a short amount of time ?"

Practice.

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: David Pegel 
Date:   2001-12-03 02:13

Natural (Relative) minor:

Think in terms of the relative major. If you know your sharps and flats in order, play the major scale but add three respective flats (or take away three respective sharps.) Play A minor in the same key as you would play C, i.e.

It'll still take practice, but sometimes they come easier than majors, depending on your ear.

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: sarah 
Date:   2001-12-03 12:57

Use the Baermann book. It covers all scales over the entire range of the clarinet. It also uses melodic minor.

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: dennis 
Date:   2001-12-03 14:35

Albert........yes, I've audtioned for (at) Ithaca. Albeit, it was in the mid 60's in the days of Charlie Bay. Scales ????? you need to know more than just scales AND if things haven't changed much, you'd better know your cookies for the written part of Music Theory

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: Julia 
Date:   2001-12-09 04:27

FIrst off--Larry: come on!!

Yes,
I auditioned at Ithaca two years ago. As I recall they didn't actually ask me minor scales, but oh did I ever learn them for my auditions. There are lots of ways to learn minor scales. I can't even remember how i did it--obviously tons of repetition. BUt as far as remembering, many people advocate learning them with their relative majors. Fundamentally, that;s a good way to do it.
Anyway--good luck...and let me know what you think of the people up at ithaca.

Julia

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: Larry Liberson 
Date:   2001-12-09 15:05

Excuse me, Julia...but come on what?

The question was how to learn minor scales in a short amount of time. Whether one wants or needs to relate them to the relative or parallel majors is immaterial--you have to learn the notes! (and, BTW, you stated the obvious: "tons of repetition.") Frankly, looking for supposed short cuts does nobody any good when studying an instrument. What may seem to be a short cut now only becomes a liability later (and in most cases sooner).

Better to approach any task the correct way--and that is dedicated study and practice. So far as I have experienced (and, believe me, I'd be more than willing to put my playing and teaching experiences next to yours anytime :)), there is no substitute for it: no short cuts, no fakery, etc. In fact, sitting down and actually practicing the scales (in the various forms, naturally) is the best way to learn and absorb both the construction and 'how to play' the scales. I don't believe there are too many out there who will pick up the necessary skills by osmosis.

Finally, it is pretty shocking to me to think that someone who intends to audition (or is even thinking about attending) for a music school/college/university/conservatory (etc.) should be so ill-prepared in the very basics.

Learning and perfecting (or, at least, attempting to perfect) a musical instrument is more of a slow and steady progression--eveolutionary, in a sense. Cramming just doesn't make it--especially the fundamentals.

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: Larry Liberson 
Date:   2001-12-09 15:05

Excuse me, Julia...but come on what?

The question was how to learn minor scales in a short amount of time. Whether one wants or needs to relate them to the relative or parallel majors is immaterial--you have to learn the notes! (and, BTW, you stated the obvious: "tons of repetition.") Frankly, looking for supposed short cuts does nobody any good when studying an instrument. What may seem to be a short cut now only becomes a liability later (and in most cases sooner).

Better to approach any task the correct way--and that is dedicated study and practice. So far as I have experienced (and, believe me, I'd be more than willing to put my playing and teaching experiences next to yours anytime :)), there is no substitute for it: no short cuts, no fakery, etc. In fact, sitting down and actually practicing the scales (in the various forms, naturally) is the best way to learn and absorb both the construction and 'how to play' the scales. I don't believe there are too many out there who will pick up the necessary skills by osmosis.

Finally, it is pretty shocking to me to think that someone who intends to audition (or is even thinking about attending) for a music school/college/university/conservatory (etc.) should be so ill-prepared in the very basics.

Learning and perfecting (or, at least, attempting to perfect) a musical instrument is more of a slow and steady progression--evolutionary, in a sense. Cramming just doesn't make it--especially the fundamentals.

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 RE: Ithaca
Author: Larry Liberson 
Date:   2001-12-09 15:06

Hmmm.....I guess I felt pretty strongly about that, huh?  ;)

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