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 register key opening and "ping"
Author: Gerald Taylor 
Date:   2001-12-02 02:30

I was fiddling around with my clarinet for a few hours tonight, and started playing with throwing a beat into something resembling a lulliby in the lower register, just improvising, by briefly cracking the register key open, and decaying the resonance quickly back down to the primary note. It was sounding pretty neat... but I noticed that the tone I was getting had more "ping" than I am used to. So, I played around with how far the register key was depressed, and noted that I got a richer sound, with more "ping", if the key were only depressed about a third of full travel - about 2mm. Is this normal? Should I adjust the pad thickness or the cork under the register key to reduce travel? Or should I only lightly depress the key? The instrument is a Buffet Prestige I picked out from playing a lot of instruments, and I have the stock pads. I've had the instrument perhaps 5 months now.

I am a returning clarinet player, with a long way to go...

Thanks,
Gerald

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 RE: register key opening and "ping"
Author: jbutler 
Date:   2001-12-02 21:39

I'm not sure what you mean by "ping".....Selmer recommends to open the vent by the thickness of a nickel. Most Buffet types say to open the vent by 5mm.. Whatever works for you.

jbutler

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 RE: register key opening and "ping"
Author: ron b 
Date:   2001-12-02 21:55

Gerald;
The term, 'ping', is a new one on me too :|
Maybe you've stumbled onto a new novelty technique that you should patent right away before sharing any more info about it publicly :]

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 RE: register key opening and "ping"
Author: Michael Ringle 
Date:   2001-12-03 04:07

"Ping" is a word used to describe sound. It is the brilliance of the sound, my best way to describe it is by telling you to listen to different people play the fourth movement of the Hindemith Sonata. I'd say Jonathon Cohler's recording of it has a decent sounding "ping." I'm not sure how to describe it other than listen to different artists' staccato sound. That's where it comes into play a lot.

Mike

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 RE: register key opening and "ping"
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2001-12-03 07:47

Yes you are right. All new clarinets have too much open heights.
Depending on the pros, according to my memory, they say 0.6mm(Pay) - 1mm(Bush)-1.2 mm(Ridenour). I do not know the height depends on the horn they play.
One opinion was obtained by searching Klarinet archives(not this BBS) by "register key elevation":
http://www.sneezy.org/Databases/Logs/2000/10/000796.txt
Tony Pay's opinion may be found in the archeves.
I got this knowledge first by Tom Ridenour's 'Fingering Book'.

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 RE: register key opening and "ping"
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2001-12-03 10:53

As you close it more you will start to introduce progressive fuzziness into the sound of the throat Bb. But fuzziness also is affected by reed hardness, embouchure and breath pressure, not to mention the shape of then pad and the geometry of the vent itself.
There are many compromises made in the design of this vent because it attempts to serve many purposes.

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