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Author: Ted Donaldson
Date: 2001-09-23 01:46
How pricy is this school?
I am considering this, but my mom and dad are reluctant to pay for highschool... I WANNA GO SO BAD!
Oh well...
Ted
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-09-23 02:47
Interlochen Academy is an expensive, prestigious school. The Interlochen Summer Arts Camp is also an expensive.
You said "You wanna go so bad". How do you know you wanna go?
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Author: Kim L
Date: 2001-09-23 03:44
Personally, I would rather go to high school than go to music academy. At a music school you would be around extremely competive kids your age and very strict teachers. I don't think it would be half as much fun as going to high school. It's your choice though...
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-09-23 06:39
We seem to be approaching this from EXTREME angles. Mark Charette & Ken Shaw can shed a lot of "personal" light on Interlochen.
My daughter, Leslie, has attended the Summer Camp for 4 years now. She was a first Chair her middle 2 years. Leslie experienced just a little bit of competition this past summer. She was amongst the very youngest 15 y/o's in the H.S. Division this past summer. We foreced her to study Conducting & she ended up having a ball, gaining some real insight & learning.
Frankly, I don't think there are just a great number of kids who can stomach the schedule, practice & pressure. Don't want to challenge the Chair in front, the instructors will arrange the challenge for you. If you win, you go right back head-to-head. Kids come "careening" down several chairs at a time. It's quite competitive & you are judged in challenges by your peers, playing from behind a curtain. It's a tough environment. Few kids have the dedication. It's way easier said than done. Many kids have difficulty physcally with their lips, etc. On the other hand, the exposure to music
Leslie studied with Dan Silver of Colorado for 3 years & Sandra Potkay Jackson the former Principal in Mexico City this past year.
Competition at very high levels doesn't always breed hatred, anxiety, dislike for others & other problems. Sometimes your best friends, ared the OTHER kids who are traveling the SAME path.
COMPETITION ISN'T THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORLD. However, for anybody who wants to be a Soloist or a Symphony Musician the experience @ Interlochen is 2nd to none. It prepares some of the best budding players in the World for the competition that lies ahead of them. Attendance from throughout ther world (the sheer # of countries) is incredible.
i don't see how anybody who hasn't attended the full-time boarding school (Interlochen Academy) could have any real info to share. Sorry, but if you haven't been I fail to see how you can report on the contrast.
Given, the environment is closer than a traditional H.S.
Summer Camp for HS runs about $5,000 with extras + airfare.
Summer Camp for Intermediate (12-15 or so) is about $3,500 with extras & airfare
The Academy is very expensive. Scholarships are available for all the activities.
I hope that others with experience will join in.
best,
mw
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Author: Ted Donaldson
Date: 2001-09-23 10:32
Thanks for the info, and after thinking it over... i dunno... i am going back to sleep...
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-09-23 13:40
The Arts Academy is <b>very</b> different from the camp - don't confuse the two. The level of musicians is very high, but the Academy is run significantly different than the Camp.
The Arts Academy was about $22,000/yr.; however, there are needs based scholarships so don't let the price stop you, at least initially.
I don't know who the new clarinet instructor will be - Richard Hawkins has moved and is now teaching at Oberlin.
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-09-23 15:21
I would assume then that the 22K is ++, since the Summer Camp has increased each year in cost.
The (new) Clarinet Instructor is a DMA who was teaching at East Carolina University. Other Interlochen (clarinet) teachers have come from ECU, including Deborah Chodacki. Seems like the announcement card we got was from Dr. Nathan Williams.
http://www.music.ecu.edu/bios/Faculty/wms.html
Here is the bio/info on Deborah who taught at the Interlochen Summer Arts Camp this past year, in place of Sidney Forrest. She taught for 1/2 the term and Robert Spring of Arizona taughtb the 2nd 1/2.
http://www.music.umich.edu/faculty/chodacki.deborah.html
As I stated earlier, Mark Charette (and anybody who has attended the Academy) knows far more than I about the day-to--day life of the Arts Academy & its curriculum.
best,
mw
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Author: HAT
Date: 2001-09-23 16:08
The Arts Academy is a great place to grow up. Although the talent level is very high, it is very isolated from 'the real world.' Much more so than, say, Juilliard Pre-College for instance.
There is hardly a better place to decide whether music (or another art) is something you really want to do. Even if you decide not to persue it, the academic regimen there is far superior to most public schools. Good colleges take a lot of students from IAA, and not just in music.
And there is no marching band, THANK GOD.
David Hattner, NYC
www.northbranchrecords.com
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Author: Jeff
Date: 2001-09-23 19:58
I attended the academy, it was a great experience. Musically it was great to be around such high level young players. The competition though was fiercer than anything I've ever encountered, and I went to a conservatory for my undergrad. Just think about it, a bunch of top level hot shots trying to show each other up; theres bound to be problems. Socially the academy was a wild place. You have all these kids cooped up in these dorms with all the restrictions and rules; of course that leads to lots of drugs, alchohol, sex, and fooling around. I personally enjoyed the place, but looking back I don't think I would send my kids there.
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-09-23 20:06
Jeff said about Interlochen:
"... of course that leads to lots of drugs, alchohol, sex, and fooling around."
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That's hardly a revelation.Certainly this part of your description is NOT a contrast. Go to ANY public school in the U.S. (& other countries) & you will get a bellyfull of those activities. Peer pressure is peer pressure. If one should succumb, one will succumb anywhere.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-09-23 21:23
Jeff wrote:
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> of course that leads to lots of drugs, alchohol, sex, and
> fooling around
And the bad points are???
Mark C., who <b>did</b> let his son go there for 3 years - and, AFAIK, no really bad things happened. A couple of kids reprimanded/expelled for stealing Ritalin, no hard drugs (at least the kids my son hung out with didn't dabble), the sex & fooling around was tame in comparison to when I went to HS (late 60s).
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Author: Jeff
Date: 2001-09-24 04:02
After attending public school for three years and then Interlochen, I have to say that Interlochen was much more hard core than anything. A lot more happened there than you older folks/parents know about. Im getting tired of all the hard nosed opinions on sneezy.
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Author: Jeff
Date: 2001-09-24 04:16
I'm not going to waste my time with you
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Author: Cathy
Date: 2001-09-24 05:11
Ted,
A trumpet playing friend of mine is attending Interlochen this year and from what I understand full tuition is about $28,000 he is however getting a nearly full scholarship. Don't write off school at home completely though, this friend went to high school at home first and I believe that to been a wise move. Hope that was the info you wanted. Best of luck and best wishes~Cathy
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Author: Anon
Date: 2001-09-24 11:04
From my expierence at live in music camps in Australia they sound exactly like the ones in the US. Lots of booze, soft drugs, sex and great music. If there is a better way to get a teenager to love music I've never heard of it.
Music camps, in my oppinion as someone who is still attending them, are all about life expierence, making new friendships and doing things in all facets of life that don't occur during the rest of the year. You pracitice your butt off for a years so you can have fun and I'll be damned if some old bugger with no life is going stop me enjoying myself.
(There are old buggers who have posted anything in this thread!)
Long Live Music Camp Traditions
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-09-24 12:04
Anon said:
"From my expierence at live in music camps in Australia they sound exactly like the ones in the US. Lots of booze, soft drugs, sex and great music. If there is a better way to get a teenager to love music I've never heard of it."
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Oh well. The "booze, soft drugs & sex" being talked about here was at a SCHOOL (academy), not a Camp.
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2001-09-24 17:35
Perspective,
It is hard for a person in his own pond to gage the fish in other ponds. I do not know about the Academy first hand but my daughter attended Camp for three summers before going to other venues (she's a dancer, not a musician). The perspective (in her own words, not mine) which she got was the level of talent, training, and committment in other artists of her age, was well worth while. There will always be the prodogy in some other part of the world that one cannot measure in your assessment of your own abilities, but Interlochen (Camp) draws a pretty diverse segment of the world community and talent pool. It was a great experience for her (no worse for sex, drugs, and rock and roll than an urban setting) and might be a trial balloon for someone interested in pursuing the Academy - no one can tell you about the isolation, beauty of the campus, or harsh competition adequately unless you experience it for yourself.
The Doctor
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2001-09-26 00:35
A friend of mine goes to the Academy for dance. She is a VERY intense person and is always the best at everything she does (also music and every school subject). She just started this year, I don't know how she likes it yet. I know I couldn't handle the competition, I'm not a competitive person. It would make me feel depressed and generally awful, so I'm steering clear for now.
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