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 B&H Emperor
Author: Tankie1rtr 
Date:   2022-09-08 14:08

Hi All.
70 yr old newbie to the group here, I have a Boosey & Hawkes Emperor Clarinet, 1953. and I have a key that is bent, (Its the key that connects the linkage from the bottom body to the top body) it seems bent, as when i press the ring keys, it will not connect the linkage as there is too big a gap, I do not want to try to straighten it with plyers in case the metal breaks with it being so old. so can anybody please tell me, are the keys off a boosey & Hawkes Regent clarinet the same, and will they fit the Emperor, Thank You



Post Edited (2022-09-08 17:00)

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: staccato 
Date:   2022-09-08 17:00

Hi,
There should normally be a layer of cork bridging that gap.
Cheers,
Henrik



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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Tankie1rtr 
Date:   2022-09-08 17:02
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Hi Henrick.
Thank you for replying to my question, it already has cork to bridge the gap, but the gap is too wide. see photos. The wide gap is when the keys are open, the narrow gap is when i have pressed the keys.

Cheers.
John



Post Edited (2022-09-08 17:04)

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2022-09-08 18:21

The upper part of the bridge key link has been bent up at an angle - it should be sitting parallel with the joint surface. It can CAREFULLY be bent back down so it lies flat and your long Bb will be back in regulation.

Likewise with the side Eb/Bb key as that's been bent beyond all recognition.

Note the word CAREFULLY.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Tankie1rtr 
Date:   2022-09-09 01:41

Hi Chris.
I thought of doing this but thought that it maybe brittle with it being so old 1952. and I didnt want to snap the metal.

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2022-09-09 02:58

If you take it to a repairer, that's what they would do. The keywork on the Emperor is pretty robust, as long as you're careful you should have no problem.

Tony F.

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Tankie1rtr 
Date:   2022-09-09 14:36

Thank You Tony. I will have a go at it today, does it need warming first or is it ok to do it cold?
John

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Tankie1rtr 
Date:   2022-09-09 17:09

Hi Chris.
I have straightened them without breaking them, so all good. Thanks for your advice.
Cheers
John

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Tankie1rtr 
Date:   2022-09-09 17:10

Hi Tony.
I have straightened them without breaking them, so all good. Thanks for your advice.
Cheers
John

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 Re: B&H Emperor
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2022-09-09 20:01

The keys on this one are made of various drop forged, extruded and machined nickel silver pieces and are all brazed/silver soldered together, so they can be straightened with little risk of them breaking.

Not always the case with the single-piece die-cast Mazak (zinc alloy) keys on '50s wooden Regents where they can break easily and can't always be successfully repaired (maybe Technoweld could work, but I haven't tried it), whereas nickel silver keys can always be silver soldered back together and then replated should they break.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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