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Author: 3l
Date: 2022-03-21 16:21
I met someone at MSV winers concert, they all use this barrel, anyone know is it good?
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Author: r small
Date: 2022-03-21 16:54
I use one on my Selmer Presence. It sounds at least as good as the stock barrel. Is it better? Not sure. But I have to admit I like the looks. Kind of unusual.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2022-03-21 18:40
3l wrote:
> I met someone at MSV winers concert, they all use this barrel,
> anyone know is it good?
Backun barrels (of whatever style) are perfectly good barrels - if you like the effect they have on clarinet sound. His fatboy model is one choice among many by Backun and many other designers.
I'm a little confused by your saying you met some**one** at the concert and **they all** use this barrel. Was it one player or were several clarinetists using fatboys?
Karl
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Author: 3l
Date: 2022-03-22 02:00
Only two clarinet players I met actually at MSV concert, they both use fatboy barrel, and they come from the same teacher ( a man who is 87years old, and very famous as I heard from). Maybe their teacher likes this barrel!
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Author: johnwesley
Date: 2022-03-23 08:31
I have both a Fat Boy and traditional in cocobolo. I think they sound good. Not sure they sound better than what came with the clarinet. Like r small I like the way they look. The fit however is awful. Neither barrel fits without teflon tape. I'd get a recork on the upper tenon but the fat boy socket is a bit larger tan the traditional. I guess there's no quality control at Backun.
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Author: r small
Date: 2022-03-23 17:17
The Backun fit my Selmer Presence pretty well. A little tight at first but after the cork adjusted to the tightness the fit became a little better. Then I got one for my Patricola and the fit is just too tight. I'll have to take it to my tech and have the sockets opened a bit. I'm not sure if the problem is quality control or just minute differences in the specs of different brands of clarinet.
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Author: Ken Lagace
Date: 2022-03-23 19:30
All barrels are 'good'.
Good for you?
If it fits your mouthpiece, clarinet, embouchure, sound concept, hearing, personality, playing style, how much you are a copycat, and on and on.
It sounds like you want to be like other players, so it would be fantastic for you.
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Author: TomS
Date: 2022-03-23 20:19
You gotta try barrels ... they can be magic improvement or destruction.
They can help make or break your tuning, blowing resistance, response and timbre regardless of branding or sales hype. Be very careful.
Tuning is non-negotiable.
And, you gotta live with one for a while to discover if it's really doing something better for you.
Find something encouraging after spending a little while in front of a tuner and take it home for an extended honeymoon of several weeks.
If barrel is made of wood, be sure to break it in slowly, just like you would a new clarinet. May be less of a problem on barrels with cracking due to not having tones holes, but best to be careful.
Backun, Behn, Ridenour, etc all make fantastic barrels, but you might find one from and old discared Selmer Signet Soloist or Boosey & Hawkes that really makes your setup sing. Who knows?
I'm gonna try a Backun Traditional barrel with my Alpha soon ... be sure that the dealer know how to fit your barrel to the clarinet ... top joint sizes vary ...
Tom
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Author: KenJarczyk
Date: 2022-03-24 02:11
I enjoy fatboy barrels, though I will never own or play one.
I love walking up to clarinetists who use them and informing them:
Hey! Somebody stuck an avocado on your clarinet!
Ken Jarczyk
Woodwinds Specialist
Eb, C, Bb, A & Bass Clarinets
Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Baritone Saxophones
Flute, Alto Flute, Piccolo
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Author: kdk
Date: 2022-03-28 05:53
TomS wrote:
> You gotta try barrels ... they can be magic improvement or
> destruction.
>
Oh, I don't know that they make *that much* difference in the overall effect of your playing from a listener's standpoint.
They make some limited difference in the tone quality and can make response feel different to the player, which has some value for the player's comfort, but most of the difference won't be heard by anyone 10 feet away from the clarinetist.
A barrel does affect intonation, most commonly as a result of a barrel's length. But beware - that effect isn't linear over the instrument's compass - the throat notes will be affected more than the long notes.
> They can help make or break your tuning, blowing resistance,
> response and timbre regardless of branding or sales hype.
Yes, regarding tuning. Not so much the others, at least not to the point of making or breaking anything. The player is still the most important influence on what comes out.
Karl
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2022-03-30 09:04
Barrels can be very complicated. I've been working on a new barrel for 3 years and they have a micro thin hard rubber insert. This thin rubber insert helps keep your horn playing in tune, because wood swells surely effecting intonation. These are ready for the market, but I'm not sure if I want to market these. It's a lot of hard work. These barrels are also tapered and reverse tapered; this helps fit most styles of clarinets, from Buffet to Yamaha and even some Selmer horns. Next are the mouthpieces. Most of them are simply made wrong. A lot of mouthpiece bores are made too small, tuning issues as well as sound qualities are hard to fix. So changing barrels most likely won't help you become a better player, in fact hinder your playing achievements.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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Author: Patrick
Date: 2022-03-31 04:56
The good thing is there are many choices to aid you in playing the clarinet. I do have strong opinions for myself on equipment, but there are people who are playing on a wide variety of barrel makers and sound great in them. Give the Fatboy barrel a try and see for yourself.
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Author: Ursa
Date: 2022-03-31 21:04
I have Backun's Fatboy and MoBa barrels along with Ridenour, Scott, and Doctor's Products barrels.
You really have to check the intonation carefully when testing an aftermarket barrel. The throat tones and the relationship between the twelfths are critical areas to check. Very curiously, both of my Backun barrels yield seriously faulty intonation when deployed with my Backun Alpha clarinet.
From a tuning standpoint, here's what's worked best for me:
Backun Alpha: Scott 65mm
B&H 8-10: Stock barrels
B&H 1-10: Barrel scrounged from a trashed Pruefer Festival Six-20
Bundy 1400: Stock barrel
Normandy, 1948-type: Doctor's Products Power Barrel
Pruefer Festival Six-20: Stock barrel
Vito 7214: Ridenour Ivorolon
Yamaha YCL-20: Backun Fatboy
Martin Freres 1Eb: Buffet R13 42mm
Post Edited (2022-03-31 21:05)
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