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Author: Bill
Date: 2022-03-18 19:00
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I have Penzel Mueller #4785 (early 30s?) with an unusual C/G tone hole on the top joint (see photos). It's like there's a "sleeve" or inner bore that isn't lined up at the C/G tone hole. Yet, the photos of the inside reveal only a line (not observable on the exterior of the clarinet). Any insights on what this is? Thanks!
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: m1964
Date: 2022-03-18 23:15
Possibly broken tenon repair.
Chris P. should have better idea.
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Author: jdbassplayer
Date: 2022-03-18 23:25
Yeah the tenon was damaged and was replaced, but unfortunately the repair appears to have been done quite poorly. I would suspect that the C#/G# tone hole is also misaligned but you would need to remove the key to confirm.
That's a tricky thing to repair. You can't just re-drill the tone hole because the hole in the replacement section will be too big and ovalized which could potentially cause problems. The best option may be to have the tenon replacement redone. Though if this is not a particularly rare or good instrument you may just elect to leave it as is.
-Jdbassplayer
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2022-03-18 23:41
Definitely a tenon graft that's either shifted, or was made from a scrap joint and the toneholes don't align.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Bill
Date: 2022-03-20 01:03
Meaning (forgive me for being dense) the repair was to fix a broken or damaged tenon? Or is there a possibility this graft was to address some other problem? Just trying to learn! I have a trillion old clarinets so it's not like I am heartbroken.
I do have a special fondness for Penzel Muellers. More sentimental than artistic.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2022-03-21 14:47
It definitely isn't done for tuning or voicing work as that would be done with filler or reamers and applied or done more uniformly than left looking staggered/stepped like that. No hand or machine tools could cut toneholes like that.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2022-03-21 14:49)
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Author: donald
Date: 2022-03-21 15:58
I would say it's probably shifted when the wood dried up etc
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