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Author: mmatisoff
Date: 2020-12-05 04:20
I own a Vito Reso Tone Bb bass clarinet. It came with a 13.25" peg. I want to get a 30" peg so I can stand when I play. Will any peg fit to the vito? If not, what diameter would I need to get?
Thanks
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Author: fbjacobo
Date: 2020-12-05 08:27
I had a new, extra long peg made for my bass for the same reason. I went to a repairman, who measured the existing peg and got hold of a suitable rod of strong steel that was the proper diameter. If you want to do it on your own, you'll need to measure the diameter of Vito peg with a calipers or a micrometer and then find the right kind of steel. What they sell at Lowes or Home Depot won't cut it. You'll need to possibly go to a metal company, or even get a thicker piece and have a machinist put it on a lathe and make it thinner. Then you'll need to get the right sized rubber foot for the end of the rod. IMHO easier to let a good repairman do it.
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Author: JTJC
Date: 2020-12-05 20:48
I’m thinking of getting a longer floor peg for my Basset Horn. As I practice standing and am tall the rod would be quite a bit longer than the standard. For those who use a longer peg on bass or basset does the extra leverage this exerts on the peg holder/bracket cause any damage? As the peg holder is on the bell of my basset horn bell I really want to avoid putting too much strain on it and potentially damaging the bell.
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Author: tucker ★2017
Date: 2020-12-06 17:44
I sometimes practice standing..... I use the standard peg and use an adjustable stool for the additional height.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2020-12-06 18:16
If you're playing standing, then the downward force of the weight of the instrument on the solder joint is no greater than when played seating. The weight of the longer floor spike is below the instrument and supported by the floor rather than being suspended by the fitting soldered to the bell.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: JTJC
Date: 2020-12-06 22:32
Thanks Tucker and Chris P. It isn’t the weight issue, it the additional leverage afforded by the longer peg and it’s effect on the holder/bell. Or am I missing something?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2020-12-06 23:43
The weight of the instrument bearing vertically onto the peg is still going to be the same if it's a short or a long peg - nothing north of the peg has changed as it's still the same instrument.
The peg may be longer and therefore heaver, but all that weight of it is going downwards into the ground and not pulling downwards on the instrument.
Unless the longer peg isn't supported at all and you were holding the instrument horizontally, then the extra weight of it would most likely do damage - not that you'd ever do that in any circumstances.
One thing you may notice with a longer peg is it will flex more than a shorter one of the same diameter. If you are going for a longer peg, use much wider diameter rod for the most part and the same diameter that fits in the holder for some height adjustment.
If you do hold the instrument out at an angle, then you can always have the peg bent at an angle so most part of it is perpendicular to the ground and the bent portion of it offers you some adjustment.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: fbjacobo
Date: 2020-12-07 08:40
I'm not surprised that a metal dealer won't supply a rod of the right size. Luckily, there is a company called McMaster-Carr that DOES sell a 7 mm steel rod. Here's a useful link to their catalogue: https://www.mcmaster.com/steel-rods/system-of-measurement~metric/diameter~7mm/hardness~medium/hardness~rockwell-b80/ However, you need to know which steel to use (some are too soft like the ones at Home Depot). And then, you still have the problem of finding a rubber foot to keep the peg from slipping. That's why I went to a good repairman.
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2020-12-07 20:43
Yeah, the cello endpin covers work great. I stuck one on my old Selmer's peg since it slipped on the wood floors at my house. Cost me about $2 for a four-pack that would have lasted me a lifetime except I lost the other three in my junk drawer already.
I bought a carbon standing peg from Wesley Rice because I liked the idea of saving a bit of weight in my case. It is pretty light, but I don't know if I would bother spending that money again. A steel rod would have done just fine. If I did go for another carbon rod, I would probably reach out to a few suppliers to try to just buy the rod myself and stick a cello endpin cover on it.
I like playing standing with the peg, but I do dislike the flex in the rod, and I'm pretty short. I imagine it would be worse for someone tall.
If I really want to go down the rabbit hole, I'll cut a few inches off of this carbon rod, buy a larger-diameter carbon tube, cut it to the length I need, and get a friend to print me an adapter that will accept the smaller diameter rod on top and friction fit in the larger tube on the bottom. Then I could epoxy it into the tube to hopefully gain stiffness and save weight at the same time. I do wonder if the hollow tube that would be required would just be comically large at that point.
That would be more about having a project to mess around with than any meaningful improvement in my playing.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2020-12-11 09:08
>> I like playing standing with the peg, but I do dislike the flex in the rod, and I'm pretty short. I imagine it would be worse for someone tall. <<
I'm pretty short, and what I've done with mine, and even more so when I make them for taller players, is to use a larger diameter rod and turn down only the top to the smaller diameter to fit the mount. Weight and overall size (fit in the case) are things to consider. Exact diameter depends on total length and preference of the player (I've used rods as large as 9mm diameter, but usually use 8mm for that).
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